Posted on 05/17/2004 8:14:59 AM PDT by JusticeTalion
Good afternoon Jeb. Welcome to the forum. It's your ball.
From what I've heard on the news, it's not very likely they will have too many problems. One expert was saying that the artillery shells were one of the safest ways to store the Sarin because it was kept in binary format.
Also, the reason why it didn't set off a huge cloud was that the shell is designed to be fired out of an artillery piece, and without that process the binary agents didn't mix very well.
The DUmmies are apparently complaining that it isn't significant because more people didn't die. Typical leftist ghouls, they aren't happy unless lots of people die.
A fine example of Bush-hating Democrat cognitive dissonance at work.
No kidding. If these were created by Al Qaeda and imported to be used against our troops it wouldn't have been utilized so poorly in binary form in an Iraqi artillery shell...but hey, logic and Dimocrat are mutually exclusive terms.
What I want to know is, what does Lenin's useful fools over at DU, the liberal media, the DNC, the French, Russians, Germans, the UN and JOHN F'ING KERRY have to say about it?
I think everyone of them owes President Bush an apology. Wouldn't you agree?
What I want to know is, what does Lenin's useful fools over at DU, the liberal media, the DNC, the French, Russians, Germans, the UN and JOHN F'ING KERRY have to say about it?
I think everyone of them owes President Bush an apology. Wouldn't you agree?
I disagree. Saddam lives in a cell and eats only what we provide. If this was his intention, then that is a strange strategy.
Sadr lives, I believe, because political concerns have slowed our response and weakened our resolve to eliminate those opposed to us.
One possible explanation for what happened is that there is a splintering of opposition power in Iraq and some of the groups, badly managed and led, have decided to use such weapons to create a panic on our side.
Poisonous gases are very difficult to use effectively as anything other than a weapon of terror. In WWI, allied troops were cooped up in fixed entrenchments and made themselves targets. My guess is that the Iraqi terrorists are unable to deploy these agents any more effectively than we are seeing.
I don't know the condition of the thousands in Japan who were injured by the sarin attack, but there were only a dozen killed. This is much smaller than the explosions accomplished in Spain with a similar setting.
The same way I know oral sex is sex or lying under oath is perjury.
Even a significant nerve gas attack at this stage would be no guarantee that the agent used was originally made or stored in Saddam-era Iraq.
Your lack of logic is an impeccable example of a Dimocrat. So you're suggesting that Al Qaeda made Sarin gas and installed it in an Iraqi artillery shell and then transported it to Iraq from who knows where only to be used in a way that would not properly mix the binary agent thus making the whole effort pointless, is that correct?
BTW, welcome to the board, I see you signed up today to offer this poorly considered opinion. Do you agree that it just may actually be an Iraqi artillery shell with Iraqi Sarin agent in it?
Or are you afraid that if proof of WMD's is found that the US will be vindicated in the eyes of the world? Now that would be bad, wouldn't it?!
So if we combine this artillery shell with the illegal longe range delivery systems that were found last year, we basically have a missile with Sarin that could potentially hit Tel Aviv.
If Iraq produced Sarin I would be willing to bet that they could fit it on one of those missiles.
Next time please think before you attack.
I just read down to this message. If I've misjudged your intentions I apologize. Your question matches the sort of accusations being touted on the Leftist message boards combined with the fact that you just signed up today smells like trolling. It's not uncommon. Just so you understand where people are coming from.
The fact that this apparently wasn't intended to be used for the sarin gas, it suggests to me that these have been hidden in plain sight. Unmarked shells containing WMD may have been randomly stored amongst the non-WMD shells. I pray for the safety of our troops.
"The DUmmies are apparently complaining that it isn't significant because more people didn't die. Typical leftist ghouls, they aren't happy unless lots of people die."
Hmm... How many died in Communist Russia? How many died in Communist China? How many died in Communist Cambodia?
Liberals enjoy watching the persecution and slaughter of people that only want liberty.
"If you were protesting in Tianeman Square you would be dead by now."
They're saying the same stuff they normally say. Timing is "too" convenient. It's planted. Al Qaeda brought it in, etc. No one admits it could be from Iraq. After all, if there were WMD's found in Iraq then the US would be vindicated in the eyes of the world...and the Lefties can't have that! Draws away from their plans to turn over sovereignty to the UN.
As an aside, I was in Tiananmen Square last year. Man, that is a huge area, and I didn't realize it while it was happening, but it's across the street from the Hall of the People as well as the Forbidden City and is also next to the Museum of the Chinese revolution. A more provocative location could not have been found.
I think I know what they'll say: "Sure, it definately happened, but this is just an isolated incident, not evidence of anything systematic or widespread". Naturally applying the same logic to Abu Ghraib for them results in a totally different conclusion: "Of course it's systematic...", etc....
Oh the irony... though I doubt Kerry can appreciate it. If it wasn't so shameful, it would almost be funny that Kerry et. al. think Saddam incapable of any evil, and think our troops capable only of evil.
Excellent point about the inability, or unwillingness of the Left to apply the same standards of logic consistently.
Oh the irony... though I doubt Kerry can appreciate it.
Maybe it's not "nuanced" enough for him.
**It appears to be the first evidence of nerve gas existing in Iraq since the start of the US-led war last year.**
Prrof!
And more will be coming, in my estimation, right before the elections. And it will be irrefuttable!
Anyone what to make a bet?
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