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TIME: A First Look at "Fahrenheit 9/11" (has specifics about contents)
Time Magazine ^
| Monday, May. 17, 2004
| By MARY CORLISS/CANNES
Posted on 05/18/2004 12:08:19 AM PDT by weegee
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You know what is covered (even if not all the issues) get ready to disect the lies now.
Maybe we could start a LumpyRiefenstahl-411 Michael Moore counter-information sidebar thread?
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posted on
05/18/2004 12:08:21 AM PDT
by
weegee
To: weegee
what Moore sees as the Bush Administrations crimes and misdemeanors.I didn't realize misdemeanors weren't crimes. If only I could have explained that to the judge...
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posted on
05/18/2004 12:15:17 AM PDT
by
xm177e2
(Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
To: weegee
The attacks allowed the President to push through Congress restrictive laws that would have been defeated in any climate but the war on terror chill. Sort of like what Clinton did after OKC?
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posted on
05/18/2004 12:19:45 AM PDT
by
weegee
(NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
To: weegee
Ever notice that these screaming fools always project their own flaws onto whomever they are attacking. For example the line that the President used 9/11 to advance his career....., hummmmm, wonder who really did that?
DKK
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posted on
05/18/2004 12:20:44 AM PDT
by
LifeTrek
To: weegee
I understand that Moore also makes a big deal about Bush reading to schoolchildren after hearing about the attacks on 9/11. I wish somebody in the media would point out how Moore wrote a downright insane column right after 9/11, suggesting that the terrorists should have attacked the states that voted for Bush, instead of New York. Moore removed it from his website a short time afterwards. Anyhow, my point is that Moore should be the last person pointing fingers about anybody's immediate reaction to 9/11.
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posted on
05/18/2004 12:24:03 AM PDT
by
NYCVirago
To: weegee
Fahrenheit 9/11 is at its best when it provides talking points for the emerging majority of those opposed to the Iraq incursion.
If those talking points are false then they are propaganda designed to provide aid and comfort to the enemy in a time of war (no excuse "I was just reporting the facts").
Here is a more explicit bit of treason from Michael Moore:
Michael Moore: Iraqi terrorists are "minutemen", American troops must shed blood
(April 14, 2004):The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not "insurgents" or "terrorists" or "The Enemy." They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow -- and they will win. Get it, Mr. Bush?....I oppose the U.N. or anyone else risking the lives of their citizens to extract us from our debacle...the majority of Americans supported this war once it began and, sadly, that majority must now sacrifice their children until enough blood has been let that maybe -- just maybe -- God and the Iraqi people will forgive us in the end.
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posted on
05/18/2004 12:24:24 AM PDT
by
weegee
(NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
To: weegee
I don't think I've ever seen a more obsequious review of a film in my life.
I note that absolutely zero attention seemed to be assigned to the credibility of his claims. Considering Moore's prior record, I find that jaw-dropping.
Qwinn
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posted on
05/18/2004 12:25:17 AM PDT
by
Qwinn
To: NYCVirago
I wonder what Ray Bradbury has to say about this appropriation of his title. I couldn't find his response. A real journalist would ask him rather than letting Michael hijack the name without contest.
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posted on
05/18/2004 12:27:12 AM PDT
by
weegee
(NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
To: weegee
No mention of the Clinton administration, of course.
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posted on
05/18/2004 12:28:17 AM PDT
by
Fraulein
To: NYCVirago
Toronto Star: Moore rant wows Cannes Anti-Bush polemic funny, emotional yet very powerful
At one point in the film Bush is seen in the primary school classroom where he first learned of the planes being flown into the World Trade Center towers, and Moore slows the footage down so that Bush is seen to be blinking uncomprehendingly and endlessly, a child's storybook open ridiculously before him, as a counter in the corner of the screen counts out the nine minutes before the President seemed to react.
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posted on
05/18/2004 12:34:51 AM PDT
by
weegee
(NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
To: LifeTrek
Word had it that Mel Gibson's production company was originally slated to back this film. Here is a shot of Mel Gibson when he consented to discuss this project with a fanatical Michael Moore:
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posted on
05/18/2004 12:39:13 AM PDT
by
weegee
(NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
To: weegee
The attacks allowed the President to push through Congress restrictive laws that would have been defeated in any climate but the war on terror chill.
Please don't tell me this idiot whines about libraries in his film. If the guy's going to make a movie like this, he ought to at least get someone to actually read the PATRIOT Act beforehand. Naturally, Moore couldn't be expected to read it for himself. Of course, he's proudest of the soldier interviews in Iraq, which he couldn't be bothered to score on his own. Hopefully, when it wins the Oscar, the "second unit director" will win instead of him. No, I don't really care.
But, back to the PATRIOT Act. Yeah, he pushed it through. Like Tom Daschle, the Democrats were "cowed." The House passed it 357-66. The Senate passed it 98-1. But, the poor Democrats didn't know what they were doing. It was that damn Svengali Bush with his spinning spiral top hat! No, I don't know where that image came from. :)
BTW, this is the same PATRIOT Act that corrected the deficiencies the 9/11 Kangaroo Commission are now scrambling to cover up.
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posted on
05/18/2004 12:41:40 AM PDT
by
Rastus
To: Rastus
It was that damn Svengali Bush with his spinning spiral top hat! No, I don't know where that image came from. :)
It came from a Spider-Man villain called the Ringmaster! Here's the only pic I could find of him. Not a very good image, but you can see how this would make Democrats do strange things. ;)
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posted on
05/18/2004 12:51:28 AM PDT
by
Rastus
To: weegee
Michael Moore's new wardobe
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posted on
05/18/2004 12:51:39 AM PDT
by
John Lenin
(If there were no God, there would be no Atheists)
To: Rastus
What I like is Bush is portrayed as a bumbling Svengali. He is in control only he is too stupid to know anything.
I guess that is the secret to being a mastermind, have no mind.
The left is loony tune.
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posted on
05/18/2004 1:00:12 AM PDT
by
weegee
(NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
To: weegee
Controversy aside, the new Michael Moore film is a fine documentary Stopped reading here. Useless to continue.
One question - is this documentary as accurate and truthful as "Bowling for Columbine"? If so, the US can FORGET any "support" from our European "allies". The sheeple here actually believed EVERYTHING that was claimed in that POS movie.
To: weegee
Last week, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld visited Iraq and, to the cheers of his military audience, defiantly called himself a survivor (a word traditionally reserved for those who have lived through the Holocaust or cancer, not for someone enduring political difficulties). This unnecesary and totally ridiculous slap (survivor isnt some sacred word that must only be spoken in hushed tones, after all isnt there a major television franchise about people who never lived through the holocaust or cancer called....Survivor?) in an entertainment review shows you all you need to know about the politics of this jerk, and why he likes Moores movies.
To: ladyinred; JustAmy; chadsworth; Jim Robinson
.....a benign peace group in Fresno, Cal., infiltrated by an undercover police agent.Omigosh. That wouldn't be referring to you guys, would it?
:-) :-)
To: pepsi_junkie
Last week, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld visited Iraq and, to the cheers of his military audience, defiantly called himself a survivor (a word traditionally reserved for those who have lived through the Holocaust or cancer, not for someone enduring political difficulties).
Wow. If that's the kind of mind that responds to this film, we have no worries. What a snake. "He used the word survivor!" Egads!
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posted on
05/18/2004 1:20:28 AM PDT
by
Rastus
To: weegee
At one point in the film Bush is seen in the primary school classroom where he first learned of the planes being flown into the World Trade Center towers, and Moore slows the footage down so that Bush is seen to be blinking uncomprehendingly and endlessly, a child's storybook open ridiculously before him, as a counter in the corner of the screen counts out the nine minutes before the President seemed to react. That's what I had heard about Moore's movie, except for the slowing down thing. But does that tape show his reaction after the first tower being hit, or the second? I'll bet it's the first, and Moore is intellectually dishonest enough to pretend it's the second.
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