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Same-Sex Marriage Is Just the Beginning, Conservatives Warn
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 6/18/04 | Susan Jones

Posted on 05/18/2004 5:18:43 AM PDT by kattracks

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To: Protagoras

You liken me to this? Who's got an agenda? End of discussion.


61 posted on 05/18/2004 7:51:10 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Pax et bonum!)
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To: Protagoras

You liken me to this? Who's got an agenda? End of discussion.


62 posted on 05/18/2004 7:51:20 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Pax et bonum!)
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To: Protagoras

You liken me to this? Who's got an agenda? End of discussion.


63 posted on 05/18/2004 7:51:26 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Pax et bonum!)
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To: ThomasMore

64 posted on 05/18/2004 7:51:40 AM PDT by Protagoras (Control is the objective and freedom is the obstacle.)
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To: Protagoras

Why don't you place the Founding Fathers pictures up here. They wrote plenty of laws into the books.


65 posted on 05/18/2004 7:53:05 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Pax et bonum!)
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To: ThomasMore
You liken me to this?

I liken violent theocracies to each other.

Sorry if you saw yourself there, I didn't make that comparison.

66 posted on 05/18/2004 7:53:42 AM PDT by Protagoras (Control is the objective and freedom is the obstacle.)
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To: ThomasMore

Laws are good. Those that defend individual liberty and demand personal responsibility.


67 posted on 05/18/2004 7:54:58 AM PDT by Protagoras (Control is the objective and freedom is the obstacle.)
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To: Protagoras
I didn't make that comparison.

You did exactly that, Protagorus.

68 posted on 05/18/2004 7:55:23 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Pax et bonum!)
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To: *Homosexual Agenda; EdReform; scripter; GrandMoM; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; ...

Homosexual Agenda Ping - Busy busy this AM, must ping the list.

Let me know if anyone wants on/off this list.


69 posted on 05/18/2004 7:57:24 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Moral decay leads to anarchy which leads to totalitarianism.)
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To: tdadams
It's a bit misleading to say this list is "from the Congressional Record". It is not an official pronouncement of Congress, but was read into the Congressional Record from the book The Naked Communist by W. Cleon Skousen. Where did he come up with this list? Most likely his own conjecture.

And there are 45 of them...

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b5f77fb6c86.htm

70 posted on 05/18/2004 7:57:36 AM PDT by BureaucratusMaximus (Space for rent)
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To: ThomasMore
Convincing. I'm still not sure that government doesn't need to stay out of this. People talk about the slippery slope of marrying pets, children, etc. I'd be more concerned about going the other direction with marriage legislation. What about imposing term limits on marriage length? Or gender/orientation limits? (ie...50% of gays males are unwed, the government will now assign you a partner) Ridiculous? Rational discussion of gay marriage was unfathomable 30 years ago.

I think that it depends on how people look at marriage. My personal view is that I gave my word to God, my family, and my wife's family that we'd be together.

The current, more liberal, view is that marriage is a legal, non-binding contract. It provides a tax structure, benefits, inheritance rights, and so forth. When viewed solely like this, gay marriage is just a contract between two people......there could be "marriage" between, say, two sigle women that live together, or two sisters (for insurance and tax purposes).

Speaking purely for myself, the spiritual contract is far more binding than any piece of paper that I may have signed. Others obviously don't think that way.......thus a 50% divorce rate.

71 posted on 05/18/2004 8:00:02 AM PDT by wbill
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To: ThomasMore
No I didn't. I told you what I was comparing. You see what you want to see, not what is.

YOU brought your anti-libertartian screed and agenda to the thread and attacked a poster in an off topic post.

You stated a flasehood when you did.

Now you don't like what you reaped. Oh well.

Stay on topic and off personal attacks and you will have no problems.

This thread isn't about libertarians or your childish misunderstanding of what they are. It is about homosexuals pretending to be married with the blessing of liberal judges. Stay on topic, stay out of trouble.

72 posted on 05/18/2004 8:01:33 AM PDT by Protagoras (Control is the objective and freedom is the obstacle.)
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To: wbill
I'd be more concerned about going the other direction with marriage legislation.

There's always a happy median to law. That's what conservatism is. IMHO.

73 posted on 05/18/2004 8:01:55 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Pax et bonum!)
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To: wbill
there could be "marriage" between, say, two sigle women that live together, or two sisters (for insurance and tax purposes).

Bingo! Follow the money, it will lead to your pocket.

75 posted on 05/18/2004 8:03:00 AM PDT by Protagoras (Control is the objective and freedom is the obstacle.)
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To: TonyRo76

Thanks! Even a blind pig finds an occasional acorn,,,,,,,,


76 posted on 05/18/2004 8:03:54 AM PDT by Protagoras (Control is the objective and freedom is the obstacle.)
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To: take
From that link...(very interesting):

1933 -- The Shape of Things to Come by H.G. Wells is published. Wells predicts a second world war around 1940, originating from a German-Polish dispute. After 1945 there would be an increasing lack of public safety in "criminally infected" areas. The plan for the "Modern World-State" would succeed on its third attempt (about 1980), and come out of something that occurred in Basra, Iraq. The book also states,

"Although world government had been plainly coming for some years, although it had been endlessly feared and murmured against, it found no opposition prepared anywhere."

77 posted on 05/18/2004 8:06:35 AM PDT by BureaucratusMaximus (Space for rent)
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To: take
Just because someone reads a Michael Moore's tirade into the Congressional Record will not make Moore's rants believable.

Be careful when posting questionable material from the "Congressional Record." All that means is that a Congresscritter read the controversial piece in Congress, perhaps after hours when everyone but the C-SPAN cameraman went home.

78 posted on 05/18/2004 8:07:27 AM PDT by george wythe
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To: ThomasMore
Happy median? I guess. I guess I'll just be a "L" libertarian on this issue. Government interference got us into this mess, I'll count on them to screw it up even further.

Left to the church, gay marriage wouldn't even be discussed.

79 posted on 05/18/2004 8:07:27 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Protagoras
YOU brought your anti-libertartian screed

This is almost laugable. All I said was that his statements were understandable, after seeing his profile, in which he claimed to be a libertarian. How is that screed? lol. You need to lighten up friend.

My next statement showed the difference in our views based on our diferrent philosphies. If that is screed, then I'm missing something here. Neither did I ATTACK a poster. But you are entitled to your opinions.

80 posted on 05/18/2004 8:10:58 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Pax et bonum!)
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