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Elementary school students witness gay marriages
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Posted on 05/18/2004 7:04:14 AM PDT by esryle

Northampton, Massachusetts-AP -- A different sort of educational experience for a group of fourth- through sixth-graders in Northampton, Massachusetts.

The students from the Solomon Schechter Day School went to Town Hall today to witness the first day of legal gay and lesbian marriages in Massachusetts.

The students have been studying the civil rights movement. One of their teachers said today's proceedings offered a chance to see a bit of history in the making.

Among those applying for their marriage licenses were several sets of parents from the school.

The kids cheered as couples emerged from City Hall with their documents in hand.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: corruptingchildren; culturewar; darkness; debauchery; hedonism; hedonist; homosexualagenda; indoctrination; liberalism; mockinggod; mockingmarriage; popularity; prisoners; romans1; secularhumanism; secularism
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1 posted on 05/18/2004 7:04:14 AM PDT by esryle
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To: esryle

JUST DAMM


2 posted on 05/18/2004 7:05:58 AM PDT by Charlespg (Civilization and freedom are only worthy of those who defend or support defending It)
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To: esryle
The kids cheered as couples emerged from City Hall with their documents in hand.

Mission accomplished. Indoctrination complete.

(These kids now firmly believe that the naked emperor is wearing a fine set of clothes.)

3 posted on 05/18/2004 7:07:00 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

This is absolutely appalling.


4 posted on 05/18/2004 7:08:47 AM PDT by patriciamary
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To: esryle

I use to pretty much overlook this lifestyle but now I am starting to wish a lot of ill will to these people as I am getting sick of this minority winning rights over the will of the majority. Something needs to be done about these judges that make policy also. Any ideas?


5 posted on 05/18/2004 7:10:51 AM PDT by Piquaboy
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To: patriciamary
I agree, Complete insanity. Sick.
6 posted on 05/18/2004 7:10:59 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: esryle

Where are the parents of these kids? They should be suing the daylights out of the school board for thrusting the secular humanism religion down the poor kids throats. Makes me want to hurl!!


7 posted on 05/18/2004 7:11:51 AM PDT by Russ7
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To: esryle
That's a conservative-reform Jewish Day School.

Here's a more honest Jewish take on things:

Part of being human is being subject to desires, and that includes desires for behaviors deemed improper by the Torah. One example that has always existed is the desire, at least for some people, to engage in homosexual behavior. But no predisposition or desire, no matter how strong, is beyond the most powerful and most meaningful force in the universe: human free will. We are not mere animals, responding to whatever urges overtake us. We are choosers. And at every moment of our lives, can choose right or choose wrong. If we subscribe to the belief that we are here not to "be what we are" but rather to "be what we can," we must endeavor to choose right.

One of humanity's saving graces over history, the Talmud teaches, has been its refusal to legitimate male homosexual relationships. It is distressing that much of American society and popular culture seems to be abandoning respect for fundamental aspects of the Torah's sexual behavior code intended for all of mankind. We Jews, though, must not allow ourselves to be pulled aboard the cultural bandwagon.

We must instead remind ourselves that, no matter how the society around us may devolve, we remain answerable to a truly higher, and unchanging, Authority.

Source: Rabbi Avi Shafran, "Why interfere with ‘love’?" Jewish World Review, May 18, 2004 / 27 Iyar, 5764


8 posted on 05/18/2004 7:12:20 AM PDT by bvw
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To: esryle
Whatever happened to not being permitted to leave school grounds during the school day without parent permission? The only exception I can remember was an awful 7-minute field trip to the planetarium, which was operated by the school district, in 9th grade.
9 posted on 05/18/2004 7:14:14 AM PDT by dufekin (John F. Kerry. Irrational, improvident, backward, seditious.)
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To: esryle
Solomon Schechter Day School of Greater Boston

I am speechless. And depressed.

10 posted on 05/18/2004 7:21:19 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Don't blame me. I voted for Sharpton.)
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To: esryle

In a free society, people have the right to different opinions on the complex moral issue of homosexuality. The government has no right to impose one particular liberal viewpoint through the public schools.


11 posted on 05/18/2004 7:24:40 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Russ7

Solomon Schecter is a Jewish day school.


12 posted on 05/18/2004 7:31:57 AM PDT by ladylib
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To: esryle
students from the Solomon Schechter Day School

Is that a PUBLIC school?

13 posted on 05/18/2004 7:33:12 AM PDT by TheBattman (Leadership = http://www.georgewbush.com/)
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To: esryle

Undermining their own religion?


14 posted on 05/18/2004 7:33:44 AM PDT by LuigiBasco (Time to restart The Crusades.)
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To: Russ7
Where are the parents of these kids?

Notice that the story says several parents of students at the school were there to get marriage licenses..... That tells a lot about the school...doesn't it.

15 posted on 05/18/2004 7:34:19 AM PDT by TheBattman (Leadership = http://www.georgewbush.com/)
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To: little jeremiah
Ping


What We Can Do To Help Defeat the "Gay" Agenda


Homosexual Agenda: Categorical Index of Links (Version 1.1)


Myth and Reality about Homosexuality--Sexual Orientation Section, Guide to Family Issues"

16 posted on 05/18/2004 7:35:16 AM PDT by EdReform
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

Break out the millstones!


17 posted on 05/18/2004 7:40:41 AM PDT by tractorman
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To: esryle

YIKES! I have a gay nephew whom I love dearly. He lives with another man. If they got married I would not want to even go to THEIR wedding. I have, after about twenty years, come to terms with his homosexuality... it helps that he doesn't screw around at gay bars in SF. He lives quietly with one other man. They don't even mention that they are gay, they just want to be LEFT ALONE. They don't hold hands or kiss or ANYTHING like that in front of us or in public. I couldn't stand to go to a wedding where they kissed..... And I love these two guys!


18 posted on 05/18/2004 7:41:12 AM PDT by buffyt (Kerry is a Flop Flipper, he Flips Flop, all the Flop that he Flips, is well Flipped Flop!)
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To: esryle
One of their teachers said today's proceedings offered a chance to see a bit of history in the making.

Or, more appropriately, the un-making of the USA and the deep decline of morals.

19 posted on 05/18/2004 7:41:24 AM PDT by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: esryle; Akira

Brainwashing in action...


20 posted on 05/18/2004 7:42:15 AM PDT by LibertyThug (Fasten your seatbelts, it's going to be a bumpy night.)
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To: esryle
These teachers are screwy.

The inauguration of a President is history.

This is trivial.
21 posted on 05/18/2004 7:46:08 AM PDT by sharktrager (Insanity: To continue repeating the same act, each time expecting a different result.)
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To: JesseHousman
After 8 years of Klintoon debauchery there ain't much left in the morals department.
22 posted on 05/18/2004 7:47:28 AM PDT by LuigiBasco (Time to restart The Crusades.)
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To: sharktrager

Celebrate Perversity.


23 posted on 05/18/2004 7:48:15 AM PDT by BadAndy (Specializing in unnecessarily harsh comments.)
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To: esryle
I said it yesterday on another thread...

Let the flooding commence

24 posted on 05/18/2004 7:50:01 AM PDT by SaveTheChief (The most crooked, you know, lying...)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
The kids cheered as couples emerged from City Hall with their documents in hand.

Cheered? Back when I was that age we would've laughed and otherwise made fun of the whole proceedings (along with being grossed-out). Well, let's face it, back then we never would've been taken there in the first place. ....And if we had been our parents would've come down on the school admin like a ton of bricks.

25 posted on 05/18/2004 7:56:19 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: *Homosexual Agenda; EdReform; scripter; GrandMoM; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; ...

Homosexual Agenda Ping - Un-freaking-believable.

Actually, it's expected. What I want to know is this school a public school or a private school?

If it's a public school, will anyone (a) rip their kids out today, and/or (b) file some lawsuits?

Let me know if anyone want on/off this pinglist.


26 posted on 05/18/2004 8:01:11 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Moral decay leads to anarchy which leads to totalitarianism.)
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To: Piquaboy

"I used to pretty much over-look this lifestyle..."

Yup, me too. So did most everyone else. That's why it has come to this. When we were free to speak up, we didn't. Now this "lifestyle" is sanctioned by the government and protected by law. It's going to take a huge majority of people to loudly speak out against it. I'm not sure we have the guts. We don't want to offend anyone don'tcha know. Shoot, we have been told not to wave our flag at the Olympics so as not to offend the rest of the world with our patriotism. A sad state of affairs. *frown*


27 posted on 05/18/2004 8:04:32 AM PDT by toomanygrasshoppers ("Put down that fiddle and DO SOMETHING!")
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To: Mr. Mojo

Pefect example of why I will never live north of the Mason Dixon line.


28 posted on 05/18/2004 8:05:10 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (Kerry: how can we trust him with our money, if Teresa won't trust him with hers!)
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To: little jeremiah

Note to self - it doesn't hurt to read the whole thread before posting...


29 posted on 05/18/2004 8:05:44 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Moral decay leads to anarchy which leads to totalitarianism.)
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To: Sybeck1

"Pefect example of why I will never live north of the Mason Dixon line."

Now, now, don't put ANYONE automatically in the same backside as the Massholes, just because we're in the north:) Think of Mass as an island of nitwits.


30 posted on 05/18/2004 8:28:03 AM PDT by BillyCrockett
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To: Sybeck1

Massachusetts has been on my "could NEVER live there" list for a long long time ... there are good people in Boston, there are good people in Seattle, there are good people in most of California ... but when I see things like this I tell my small children why I would never live there.

These teachers are truly revolting. No doubt they were the first ones clapping when Tom and Dick said "I do," thus causing the 5th graders to immitate the teachers, and Im sure the media presents it as if the kids clapped on their own.

It seems that the more liberal you are ... the less informed you are and once you accept the liberal lag lines you loose your ability to process information in a rational way ...


31 posted on 05/18/2004 8:29:47 AM PDT by dartuser
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To: esryle

Home schooling is looking better and better.


32 posted on 05/18/2004 8:31:46 AM PDT by Ciexyz ("FR, best viewed with a budgie on hand")
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To: mhking

just d*mn & "civil rights = gay rights" smear ping


33 posted on 05/18/2004 8:32:38 AM PDT by an amused spectator (The SeeBS of 2004 would have revealed the precise date and location of the Normandy Invasion)
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To: esryle

bump for later


34 posted on 05/18/2004 8:33:26 AM PDT by OldBlondBabe
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To: PBRSTREETGANG; ArGee; lentulusgracchus; Fiddlstix; Travis McGee; MississippiMan; onyx; mrustow; ...

Mission accomplished. Indoctrination complete.


Indeed. The Queering of Elementary Education has been a huge success. Now that queer marriage has come to the U.S., look for the queering of elementary education to accelerate.

See also: An excerpt from 'Queering the Schools'

35 posted on 05/18/2004 8:33:58 AM PDT by EdReform
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To: Russ7
Where are the parents of these kids?

Yesterday a little girl (10 or 11) called into the Howie Carr Show to argue for gay marriage. Howie assumed she was the victim of public school indoctrination, but I would bet she was being prompted by lesbian parents. Just a hunch.

36 posted on 05/18/2004 8:38:24 AM PDT by maryz
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To: LibertyThug
Brainwashing in action...

I call it child abuse.

37 posted on 05/18/2004 8:50:00 AM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: PBRSTREETGANG; Trinity_Tx; Squantos; Eaker; EdReform; onyx; dennisw; FITZ; yonif; Eurotwit; ...
Just wait until you see next year's Massachusetts middle school Sex Ed curriculum.

Anal sex will have to be dealt with on an equal footing with normal heterosexual sex. The ACLU and the NEA will demand it.

"Well little Billy, the answer to your question is that you don't really know for sure if you're gay, straight or bisexual until you have tried gay sex. Just be sure to use a quality lubricant, or you could hurt your 'special friend' Michael. And remember to take your time; it only hurts at first. I've got some really nice lubricant samples here for you to try. Sally, pass this basket of lubricant tubes areound the class."

Disgusting you say?

Yes, very. But this is our future, if we don't fight this and fight it hard, NOW.

38 posted on 05/18/2004 8:52:37 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Carolinamom; maryz

bttt


39 posted on 05/18/2004 9:07:39 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee

File charges on em claiming it's Kidde Porn, it'll be decades before judical losers legislating from the bench can agree or disagree .........Stay safe !


40 posted on 05/18/2004 9:09:15 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Squantos

It won't slow them up for a moment. All the MA judges are pro gay kiddie porn.


41 posted on 05/18/2004 9:10:39 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: esryle

No really we dont want to push our lifestyle our your kids we just want equality..


42 posted on 05/18/2004 9:12:16 AM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: bvw
But no predisposition or desire, no matter how strong, is beyond the most powerful and most meaningful force in the universe: human free will. We are not mere animals, responding to whatever urges overtake us. We are choosers.

A concise and perfect explanation of the issue. I think some people are born with a pre-disposition toward this depravity. And some are born predisposed toward other aberrant behaviors. The key element that is now being abandoned in our society is the notion that we're not allowed to act on every primal urge that may occur within us. Most heterosexual men have a primal urge IMO not to be monogamous. Strong men overcome it in order to do what is right.

MM

43 posted on 05/18/2004 9:13:19 AM PDT by MississippiMan
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To: Russ7
Where are the parents of these kids? They should be suing the daylights out of the school board for thrusting the secular humanism religion down the poor kids throats. Makes me want to hurl!!

I'm on the ballot for my school district (election is today)and if elected, I would absolutely object to this type of field trip without parents having a say. It is clearly a value judgement for the parents to make - not the school district.

44 posted on 05/18/2004 9:17:24 AM PDT by Fury
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To: Carolinamom
I call it child abuse.

It is a form of child abuse and brainwashing. There was a time when children would have been taken away from parents who left heterosexual relationships and dragged them into homosexual ones. You can do almost anything to your kids' minds you want so long as you don't hit them or sexually abuse them and keep them properly fed, clothed, and indoctrinated.

There was a time when teachers would have been fired for laying this stuff on innocent kids.

In my seven years at elementary school, I never heard anything about homosexuality other than what I read in the bible which I assumed only ancient people indulged in and were punished severely for it. I didn't know what it meant anyway. I didn't know what the word "fornication" meant either. Or adultery or those other words because most people weren't doing it. I can't remember anyone in my sphere in those years who was doing any of those its. Societal norms kept things in check back then, I guess.

45 posted on 05/18/2004 9:18:52 AM PDT by Aliska
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To: Travis McGee
Well my alternate suggestion is a permanent solution.

Stay Safe !

46 posted on 05/18/2004 9:21:25 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: buffyt
YIKES! I have a gay nephew whom I love dearly. He lives with another man. If they got married I would not want to even go to THEIR wedding.

I have this awful fear that my sister and her partner will decide to come to Mass. to get married, forcing me and my husband to decide between family harmony and deeply held beliefs. Actually, my husband has already said he wouldn't go, and I think I wouldn't either, even though it would do damage to my already not so close relationship with my sister. I suffered through their pretend marriage ceremony last year, but I just don't think I could show support for something I am so opposed to if they came here.

Does that make me a bad sister?

47 posted on 05/18/2004 9:29:37 AM PDT by livianne
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To: BillyCrockett
Now, now, don't put ANYONE automatically in the same backside as the Massholes, just because we're in the north:) Think of Mass as an island of nitwits.

To be fair, I live in Massachusetts and once you get outside of the major urban areas, it's a pretty traditional New England place. In my little town there were NO lines at the town clerk's office. I completely hate what is going on here, but I would like to point out that there are sane people here in Mass. too. We just have no power over the *&$%$%*# SJC.

48 posted on 05/18/2004 9:32:35 AM PDT by livianne
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To: esryle

Chance to see the fruits of judicial tyranny.

Mrs VS


49 posted on 05/18/2004 9:35:17 AM PDT by VeritatisSplendor
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To: esryle

What would Coolidge say? Wasn't he once the mayor of Northampton? "Well, Grace, I do think the people have finally lost their morality, what there was of it!"


50 posted on 05/18/2004 9:39:25 AM PDT by Theodore R. (When will they ever learn?)
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