Posted on 05/18/2004 7:04:14 AM PDT by esryle
Where are the parents of these kids? They should be suing the daylights out of the school board for thrusting the secular humanism religion down the poor kids throats.
Many times the parents are not informed that their children will be participating in these indoctrination sessions; teachers and school officials will either not notify parents or will ignore written instructions ( opt-out forms ) from the parents to exempt their children the events.
For examples, see reply numbers 38, 42, 55, 60, 68, 69, and 83 in the thread "Assemblyman MOUNTJOY opposes promotion of homosexuality in public schools."
This stuff is moving southward. I give Atlanta, Miami, New Orleans, Houston, and maybe a couple of other Southern cities 5 years. Statewide may be another story but I'll guess that a Southern state will follow MA's lead within 10 years.
Shirley, you jest.
When teachers know history and/or news is going to happen, it's conceivable they'd take them to the scene to see it with their own eyes.
Of course, in this case, it sounds like they knew a train wreck was going to take place, and even encouraged their students to cheer the carnage.
In the name of tollerance only liberal thoughts are legal. They have coopted the "open mind" defenition in the media to mean liberal = open mind and conservative =closed mind.
Ironically the reverse is true.
Liberals are enemies of the USA because they use our rights to take away our rights.
I'm imagining a totally neutral if not totally favorable context of the observation. It will certainly not be called a trainwreck. What a divicive issue this is.
Cheering? or sarcasm?
I would be curious as to what class this was. The article is slient and it could have been some sort of GLSEN class. The teacher could have been a homosexual, again a silent article. IF this was a homosexual teacher and a homosexual sex ed class then it would not be surprising the newspaper would CONCEAL the information.
What I am actually already uncomfortable with is that her partner, with donations from a good friend, is trying to get pregnant. They insist that this man (also gay) will feel no filial attachment to this child and that the child will feel no parent/child attachment to him even though he will be in the child's life as their friend and the child will be told that he is the "donor". When I used the word father to describe him, my sister sharply told me that he will not be the father - he is the donor. That is what bothers me - the idea that they will try to convince this child that the man they know to be their father is not their father and that my sister, who will be in no way related, is more a mother than he is a father. How is this kid ever going to understand what family really is?
Sorry..kind of going off on a tangent. I just don't get to talk about this much because my whole family is liberal. Bringing this up doesn't go over well.
Treat em like the varmints they are, Texas-style.
This country is about to slam into its destiny, and it's not going to be pretty.
My main objection to that is that the kids/parents had no opportunity to opt out and the fact that is was probably used to spin an anti-war agenda rather than let the kids know the reality of the Muslim religion and the hatred they foment.
If individual kids are curious to the point they want to see it, they can download the video on the net. They don't need to see this stuff in school.
This is really a strange observation, but I don't think they promoted these sorts of things (sexual agendas, real-world violence) in the state schools in communist Russia. They did indoctrinate kids into communism though, but presented it in a positive/patriotic light and not in an atmosphers of fear. Some of the kids learned that from home when people disappeared into the gulags and otherwise though, but not in school.
When I was in jr high, my girlfriends found a picture in a travel book showing a young man just after he had been beheaded for thievery or whatever in some Muslim country. It haunted me ever after whenever I remembered it. At least that guy lost his head in one quick swoop as he was still in a sitting position with blood spurting up like a fountain. If one of my teachers would have forced students to look at such a thing, I think heads would have rolled.
My tenth-grade biology teacher was quietly fired for teaching about HETEROSEXUAL ONLY sex in biology class. I hope my parents didn't have anything to do with that (discipline would have sufficed), but obviously some parents or the school board getting wind of it caused his dismissal. How things have changed! That was back in the 50's.
We learned more factual things in school without their being colored with teachers' personal views. We got better educations, too. Everybody who didn't drop out by hs graduation could actually read and write!
I know of one family that had their daughter come back from college to announce she was a practicing homsoexual. He father and mother said she had to leave the house, and stopped paying for her schooling. Her parents let her visit and talk but they will not finance her lifestyle nor will they allow her lifestyle to be held as any example for her siblings. (its a family with four kids and she is number 2) The mother and father did not want their own "tollerance" of their daughters sexual deviancy to be an example of no consequeces to the other children. (only is still a minor)
The eldest son who is already on his own, does not talk to his sister. Some may consider it harsh but I don't. We are hear such anecdotal media stories espousing the well adjusted homosexual in the homosexual lifestyle but I consider them a farce.
Did these parents push the shunned daughter deeper into the homosexual friends? perhaps but I submit as an adult she was already far recruited by her college "friends".
oh if that were true. My sister does not take things like that nicely. I can only hope they never decide to do it. My sister firmly believes that everyone should not only support what she does, but applaud it.
The only analogy I can think of that even approachs this is when a heterosexual couple cannot conceive children on their own because of male infertility. In that situation, where does the biological father fit into the picture? In many cases, this person is nothing more than an anonymous donor who will never know what becomes of his 'donation'.
If he were to be an anonymous donor I'd have less objection. That seems way less confusing than being told that this guy is your biological donor but NOT your father. And the assumption that this man will be able to see his child near him and not feel a fatherly love toward him/her is a little frightening in its naivete. I would find it nice that they want to have a family if i wasn't so worried about the values that this child will be taught. They see men as universally oppressive, people as universally racist and political correctness as a good start. What wonderful role models...
Personally, I'd rather see a child raised in a loving, caring, stable home - regardless of orientation of its occupants - than in a traditional family setting (mom, dad, their biological children) which is rife with abuse and neglect.
I totally agree with you there, and I don't think that all children in all same sex families will suffer from their situation. But it will be much harder for those children to get the balanced influence from the male and female side that comes naturally in a hetero home. And the idea that many have that this isn't important worries me. Besides, abuse and neglect occur in all families, hetero and homo. In fact, lesbian domestic abuse is quite widespread. So all I can say on that front is that I wish no child had to suffer that, utterly regardless of the sexuality of the family they are a part of. But yes, if the options are abusive straight parents or stable loving homosexual parents, I would pick the latter for the child.
Isn't family fun? I'll trade you your liberal family for my one-step-from-joining-the-militia family! :-)
Oh yeah - family is a barrel of laughs. But you know...I'm attached to the ones I got, even if they are misguided. Course my dad says the same about me. :) Luckily they are more moderate, and I have a great relationship with them. :)
Ironically, the person most responsible for the split between my sister and the rest of the family is my sister. She finds fault in us all in some way, once telling my parents she saw theirs as a sexist relationship because my dad 'got' to go to work and my mom 'had' to stay home when we were little, even though my mother wanted to be home with us. (hell, if anyone missed out it was my dad, not my mom) Her guard is constantly up, sensing attack from every angle and in everything she sees or hears. It's impossible to be close to her unless you agree with everything she believes in.
My parents couldn't have been more accepting of my sister, but for my father's sin of taking some time to totally accept the situation she was angry with him. Nothing but total and complete approval is enough. What a sad way to live that must be - so much anger....
It fits, sadly, with the in your face nature of homosexual activism. Homosexual days at disney at the same time as school field trips are Homosexual disney weekend on the same day as father day are along those lines of intending to provoke a reaction.
As Hitler said "who cares what you think, I have your children."
Agreed
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