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'Descent into Hell' [Our pro-life group at DC abortion march finally gets a mention]
Arlington Catholic Herald ^ | May 13, 2004 | Michael F. Flach

Posted on 05/18/2004 10:53:27 AM PDT by Polycarp IV

Editor's Desk: 'Descent into Hell'


By Michael F. Flach
Herald Editor
(From the issue of 5/13/04)

The recent March for Women’s Lives in Washington received lots of positive media attention. Counterdemonstrations involving pro-life supporters often took the form of silent witness (see ACH 4/29/04, page one). But first-hand reports from these pro-life demonstrators paint a disturbing portrait of verbal abuse at the hands of the pro-abortion majority.

Karen A. Torres and her two daughters attended one of the counterdemonstrations. She was startled to find herself separated from the pro-abortion mob surging up Pennsylvania Avenue by a thin, waist-high temporary fence. She assumed the two opposing camps would be kept apart.

"We walked up to the group praying a rosary and holding large signs of babies in the womb on the corner of Pennsylvania Avenue and 15th Street after the march had all ready begun," she said. "Between the noise and the intensity of the moment, no one introduced themselves. We just pulled out our rosaries, grabbed pro-life posters and joined in."

Torres said at the center of the group (which included several Christendom College students) was a young priest who led the rosary while holding up a heavy wooden crucifix. The priest recited the Divine Mercy Chaplet and "faithfully, calmly and courageously" recited all the prayers on a special pro-life handout.

"I never learned (the priest’s) name," she said. "I would like to write to him and tell him how deeply impressed we were by his courage and calm as we all descended into hell together."

Torres said the crowd in the street "went crazy" at the sight of a crucifix and roman collar, coupled with the recitation of the rosary. "It was too much for them," she said. "Women naked from the waist up (except for NARAL stickers) came as close as possible to the priest to scream obscenities and block sight of the crucifix with their signs promoting sex-ed.

"Young men skipping hand-in-hand stopped to ostentatiously give each other big sloppy openmouthed kisses. One enraged man began banging his sign hard against an oversized poster of a baby in the womb, attempting to topple it and possibly its holder," Torres said.

"One man who appeared to be quite serious told us repeatedly that he worshipped Satan and was putting a curse on us. Over and over again we were told that Jesus hated us, God was pro-choice and we were bad Christians who were going to hell.

"But the most hated and attacked target was the priest," Torres said. "For major portions of the march, we could not hear the rosary over the microphone, even though we were only five feet away. At the sight of the priest and his crucifix, people cursed, taunted and chanted slogans, but mostly they just screamed and shrieked incoherently. Between the decibel level and the hate, that sustained screaming was unnervingly like a tidal wave coming at you."

Despite having the worst verbal abuse directed toward him, Torres said, the priest never lost his calm or prayerful focus. He exhibited "patient compassion" in the face of unremitting hate.

"In my 47 years I have never witnessed a better example of grace under pressure — better known as courage — and I would like to write and tell him so," Torres said.

Anyone who recognizes this priest can write to the HERALD at 200 N. Glebe Rd., Suite 600, Arlington, Va. 22203.

Copyright ©2004 Arlington Catholic Herald.  All rights reserved.


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KEYWORDS: catholiclist; proaborts; prolife

1 posted on 05/18/2004 10:53:29 AM PDT by Polycarp IV
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To: Polycarp IV

Nice work Father. I would have killed them all.


2 posted on 05/18/2004 10:58:09 AM PDT by Fenris6
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To: kristinn

Can you help?


3 posted on 05/18/2004 11:03:35 AM PDT by sauropod (Paleo-cons make better lovers)
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To: Polycarp IV

We took a busload of about 35 from our area, and got there Friday night. We stayed at the hotel in Arlington with Randall Terry's Operation Witness group.

Saturday morning, we peacefully protested at the Planned Parenthood abortion clinic in DC, then attended talks by Randal Terry that afternoon at the hotel.

At 5:00pm, Fr. John Nesbella, who organized our bus, said mass in our hotel ballroom (beautiful, reverent mass!!!), with about 75 attending. Then we set up an Adoration Chapel in a hotel room we paid for just for this purpose. We had exposition from 7:00pm til midnite, with approx 60 attending throughout those hours. There were generally 6 to 9 individuals in our hotel room Chapel at any given time, in half hour shifts, praying for the success of Sunday's Operation Witness. It was like a Eucharistic retreat. Father thought of everything...mass kit,
monstrance, prayer books for adoration, bullhorn, crucifix, incense, Holy water, everything.

On Sunday, we arrived at Freedom Plaza with Randall Terry's group, Operation Witness. Our busload then moved to about 50 feet from the start of the March of Death, across the street from the White House museum/tour center on Pennsylvania Ave. and 15th.

Fr. Nesbella brought a 3 1/2 foot crucifix, and a bullhorn, and I stood behind him with a 4 x 8 foot sign of an 8 week old baby in utero, and we prayed the Rosary and Litany of Life and Divine Mercy chaplet repeatedly for
the duration of the march.

Many media photographers shot pictures of Fr. nesbella with his crucifix and bullhorn, but I haven't found any online. I was interviewed by the BBC World Service for their English radio news edition.

I've never seen such a mass of angry and hateful freaks and kooks and perverts in my life. As they passed, they were drawn towards Fr. Nesbella and the crucifix. Several girls stopped and removed their tops in front of
our Rosary group, with only small pro-abort stickers as "pasties", and gay couples paused in front of us to kiss and grope each other. Others hissed and screamed and spit. Father John simply held forward his hand and made the
sign of the cross over them or towards them, at which almost all of them moved on.

The DC police in our area were all professional and friendly with us, with one of them even comforting a 13 year old girl from our group holding her own handmade sign, when several lesbians screamed at her they wished her
mother had aborted her and she broke into tears. Several pro-aborts complained to the police about our presence and signs, but Randall Terry had reserved the sidewalks on both sides of Pennsylvania Ave for our protest, so
we were there with full rights. Apparently the pro-aborts hadn't thought of this, and it really enraged them.

What a weekend.

Dr. Brian Kopp (Polycarp IV)


4 posted on 05/18/2004 11:04:52 AM PDT by Polycarp IV (PRO-LIFE orthodox Catholic--without exception, without compromise, without apology. Any questions?)
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To: .45MAN; AAABEST; AKA Elena; al_c; american colleen; Angelus Errare; annalex; Annie03; Antoninus; ...
"But the most hated and attacked target was the priest," Torres said. "For major portions of the march, we could not hear the rosary over the microphone, even though we were only five feet away. At the sight of the priest and his crucifix, people cursed, taunted and chanted slogans, but mostly they just screamed and shrieked incoherently. Between the decibel level and the hate, that sustained screaming was unnervingly like a tidal wave coming at you."

Despite having the worst verbal abuse directed toward him, Torres said, the priest never lost his calm or prayerful focus. He exhibited "patient compassion" in the face of unremitting hate.

"In my 47 years I have never witnessed a better example of grace under pressure — better known as courage — and I would like to write and tell him so," Torres said.

We were the only group with a priest on Penn and 15th, with a large crucifix and megaphone with mic, so I think its safe to conclude this writer is referring to our group and its leader, Fr. John Nesbella, of the Diocese of Altoona-Johnstown PA.

God bless our Fr. John, a fearless prayerful priest. Ping!

PS: One enraged man began banging his sign hard against an oversized poster of a baby in the womb, attempting to topple it and possibly its holder," Torres said.

That was my sign he was banging on. He was mad because I could hold my 4x8 foot sign higher than his. He was unable to block my sign so he tried to damage it.

5 posted on 05/18/2004 11:06:49 AM PDT by Polycarp IV (PRO-LIFE orthodox Catholic--without exception, without compromise, without apology. Any questions?)
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To: Polycarp IV

Funny...Anytime there's a pro-abort or pro-homosexual march, you get this peachy-keen picture (usually from the major news outlets) of peaceful folks, just marching for "basic rights". Then you get the real picture - stuff they don't show on TV...Dozens of accounts like this, where marchers display violent and/or disgusting behavior at the smallest display of disagreement. It's pathetic to think that a group of people are so completely blind to truth and decency.


6 posted on 05/18/2004 11:07:58 AM PDT by opus86
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To: sauropod; kristinn
Can you help?

I'm contacting the paper. The priest was the leader of our busload from central PA. He's a close friend, and I'll be forwarding this article to him.

7 posted on 05/18/2004 11:09:52 AM PDT by Polycarp IV (PRO-LIFE orthodox Catholic--without exception, without compromise, without apology. Any questions?)
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To: Polycarp IV

=== Women naked from the waist up (except for NARAL stickers) came as close as possible to the priest to scream obscenities and block sight of the crucifix with their signs promoting sex-ed.



That pretty much puts it in perspective.


8 posted on 05/18/2004 11:10:16 AM PDT by Askel5
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To: Polycarp IV

bump


9 posted on 05/18/2004 11:12:46 AM PDT by aberaussie
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To: Polycarp IV; TEXOKIE

The demons were out in force that day. Let those who are not blind, see them for what they really are.


10 posted on 05/18/2004 11:13:26 AM PDT by DLfromthedesert (I was elected in AZ as an alt delegate to the Convention. I'M GOING TO NY)
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To: Aquinasfan
At the sight of the priest and his crucifix, people cursed, taunted and chanted slogans, but mostly they just screamed and shrieked incoherently.

Ping for a practical application of the theory.

12 posted on 05/18/2004 11:17:47 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (Obedience is the weapon of Modernists)
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To: Polycarp IV
WOW, they rather reacted like vampires at the sign of the cross didn't they?

However, the following opinion is totally unrelated to the reaction of the above mentioned pro-abortion mob: I do not believe in publicly protesting for the pro-life cause with a rosary in my hand. Not only do pro-abortionists use such occasions and pictures of such occasions to propagandize Americans that pro-life is an issue important only to Catholics, I believe it truly alienates other pro-lifers (even other Catholics) and nonreligious alike from participating in pro-life events and fails to persuade moderates to the legitimacy of the pro-life cause.

Therefore, as a Catholic and a sometime pragmatist, I would prefer attending mass and saying the rosary as a group with other pro-life activist Catholics before the protest or pro-life activist event.

13 posted on 05/18/2004 11:19:38 AM PDT by TOUGH STOUGH
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To: Polycarp IV

I can imagine how hard it would be to keep from taking your signs and giving some of them a good smack upside the head.

Of course we know that this is the type of behavior that this type of crowd displays. It would suck if they grew a brainstem and acted with some decorum. At least this way, they're disgusting all the spectators.


14 posted on 05/18/2004 11:23:17 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Torrance Ca....land of the flying monkeys)
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To: Polycarp IV

And BTW, KEEP ME AWAY FROM RANDALL TERRY under whose leadership the pro-life movement was divided and set back 15 years, a setback from which we have yet to recover.


15 posted on 05/18/2004 11:24:34 AM PDT by TOUGH STOUGH
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To: TOUGH STOUGH

Your observation on the rosary in public could be construed as you say it; however, Our Blessed Mother herself, has said in numerous apparations sanctioned by the church, that we should publicaly carry and display our rosaries always. I trust Mary's petition more than man's logic. I proudly carry my rosary and pray it daily. I leave it on my desk in the open at work, have it in my hands always during mass and it is never not in my pocket otherwise. This give glory to God the Father.


16 posted on 05/18/2004 11:27:21 AM PDT by Integrityrocks
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To: TOUGH STOUGH

God's law and the truth must be publicly witnessed. We cannot shrink from our duty to let sinners know their ways are not those of God's or ours. The rosary, signs, pictures or passages of scripture are all appropriate. Those that are open to the message do not discriminate between Catholic or Protestant or Jewish belief in life.


17 posted on 05/18/2004 11:29:58 AM PDT by RicocheT
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To: DLfromthedesert

Wow. Thanks for the ping. May God judge His righteous judgement upon those who hate the little ones aborning in the womb. God help us all.


18 posted on 05/18/2004 11:37:41 AM PDT by TEXOKIE (The Will of God is Good! Not my will, not my will, not my will, but Thine be done!)
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To: Nappi
yes, but was she good looking?

I am guessing not.

Let's put it this way, on the drive home, Fr. John leaned over to me and said, "Did you see those girls who took off their shirts? It reminded me that celibacy ain't all bad."

19 posted on 05/18/2004 11:40:30 AM PDT by Polycarp IV (PRO-LIFE orthodox Catholic--without exception, without compromise, without apology. Any questions?)
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To: Polycarp IV

The abortion crowd looked even worse than this.

20 posted on 05/18/2004 11:49:56 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Polycarp IV
Sounds like you had quite a day. Suggestion: next time you're at one of these events, bring a video camera with you. Judging from your description of the antics, I can't imagine any news agency turning down video like that.

Hate is not a family value, but it is one that liberals cherish.

21 posted on 05/18/2004 12:12:27 PM PDT by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
Ping for a practical application of the theory.

It sure sounds that way. People scoff when I tell them that I've encountered groups of people who I believe to be satanists at pro-life marches. You have to experience it to fully appreciate it. And then, how do you explain homeless-looking people holding signs saying "Kill Jesus" and "Eat Babies"?

22 posted on 05/18/2004 12:17:27 PM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: DLfromthedesert

"The demons were out in force that day. Let those who are not blind, see them for what they really are"

Normally I find that "demonizing" the oppostion is dishonorable.

But in this instance, I think you're dead on target. Demons indeed.


23 posted on 05/18/2004 12:47:49 PM PDT by Fenris6
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To: Polycarp IV
I've never seen such a mass of angry and hateful freaks and kooks and perverts in my life. As they passed, they were drawn towards Fr. Nesbella and the crucifix. Several girls stopped and removed their tops in front of our Rosary group, with only small pro-abort stickers as "pasties", and gay couples paused in front of us to kiss and grope each other. Others hissed and screamed and spit. Father John simply held forward his hand and made the sign of the cross over them or towards them, at which almost all of them moved on.

How does it feel to look into the eyes of someone who's demon-possessed?

24 posted on 05/18/2004 12:55:34 PM PDT by Dubh_Ghlase ("Every man dies, but not every man truly lives...." Braveheart)
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To: Integrityrocks
I have no problem with public displays of the rosary at public Catholic events or of individuals praying the rosary in public places and have done so myself.

Rosaries and crucifixes do not belong at public group protests against abortion and do far more harm than good.

God also admonishes us to be cunning in battle.

25 posted on 05/18/2004 3:06:14 PM PDT by TOUGH STOUGH
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To: RicocheT
The rosary, signs, pictures or passages of scripture are all appropriate.

And at protests opposing abortion all completely ineffective so they are inappropriate. I know many devout and holy Catholics who feel similarly.

The above is a complete TURNOFF to many people who are open to prolife opinion but who may not share the Catholic faith and for that reason is also a TURNOFF to many prolife Catholics who might be otherwise willing to participate in prolife events.

I myself would prefer to protest against against abortion, the way I have protested for or against other issues.

26 posted on 05/18/2004 3:16:02 PM PDT by TOUGH STOUGH
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To: Polycarp IV

Please, can anyone help me locate a girl named Katie? I think she was from Christendom College but I am not certain. I know she was wearing a blue t-shirt(probably American Collegians for Life) and a demin skirt....bit of acne on her face but still very pretty---prayed unceasingly. When she had paused foir a bit, I told her how wonderful her witness was, and how I admired her prayerfulness, to whgich she replied, "well, what else can you do?" I would love to try and locate her to tell her how proud I was to stand beside her that day. That goes for all the magnificent people that were there in defense of the unborn. In a way, it was one of the most wonderful days of my life. If anyone needs clarity on what I actually mean, do not hesistate to e-mail me at jmusumeci@hotmail.com


27 posted on 05/24/2004 6:41:04 PM PDT by MarylandPines (If Bush is stupid, then that would make most liberals brain-dead.)
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To: MarylandPines
Do you remember where she was located, which block of Pennsylvania Ave you were on when you spoke to her? The pro-0life group at Christendom may be helpful in identifying her.

I talked to various college students but we did not have any travelling with us, though some stopped to pray with us at Pennsylvania and 15th.

American Collegians for Life can be contacted at

ACL@aclife.org
American Collegians for Life
PO Box 1112
Washington, DC 20013

Christendom College can be contacted at info@christendom.edu

I'm sure they would forward any request to the proper club or leader.

28 posted on 05/24/2004 7:29:08 PM PDT by Polycarp IV (PRO-LIFE orthodox Catholic--without exception, without compromise, without apology. Any questions?)
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To: Polycarp IV; Dr. Brian Kopp

Thank you for your ping to this old thread from this new thread on a similar topic: http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/2918127/posts?page=62

You are absolutely right. The hatred shown toward the priest is very likely demonic. We cannot take lightly the Word of God and what it says about demons hating God and His Word.


29 posted on 08/15/2012 6:22:19 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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