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First Bayonet Charge Since the Falklands (IRAQ)
Scotland on Sunday Paper ^

Posted on 05/18/2004 3:06:01 PM PDT by amakua

May 16, 2004 Go UK!!!!! First Bayonet Charge since the Falklands War British troops in Iraq perform their first bayonet charge since the Falklands War. 35 insurgents were killed, while only 3 British troops were wounded. Isn't it ironic that only a few days after Nick Berg was beheaded, that the same terrorist scum feel cold steel themselves. Turn about is fair play.

From Scotland on Sunday Paper

Argylls fight hand to hand in Iraq

BRIAN BRADY WESTMINSTER EDITOR

SCOTTISH troops fixed bayonets and fought hand to hand with a Shi’ite militia in southern Iraq in one of their fiercest clashes since the war was declared more than a year ago, it was reported last night.

Soldiers from the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders mounted what were described as "classic infantry assaults" on firing and mortar positions held by more than 100 fighters loyal to the outlawed cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, according to military sources.

At least 20 men from al-Sadr’s army were believed killed in more than three hours of fighting - the highest toll reported in any single incident involving British forces in the past 12 months.

Nine fighters were captured and three British soldiers injured, none seriously.

"It was very bloody and it was difficult to count all their dead," one source was quoted as saying. "There were bodies floating in the river."

The Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders were drawn into the fighting when soldiers in two Land-Rovers were ambushed on Friday afternoon about 15 miles east of the city of Amara. The soldiers escaped, only to be ambushed a second time by a larger group of militia, armed with machine-guns, rocket-propelled grenades and mortars.

Reinforcements were summoned from the Princess of Wales’s Royal Regiment at a base nearby. "There was some pretty fierce hand-to-hand fighting with bayonets fixed," the source added. "There were some classic assaults on mortar positions held by the al-Sadr forces."

Official spokesman Major Ian Clooney confirmed the Mehdi army "took a pretty heavy knocking", but refused to specify tactics. "This was certainly an intense engagement," he added.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bayonets; handtohand; iraq
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Here's to you Nick Berg or (payback is hell)
1 posted on 05/18/2004 3:06:02 PM PDT by amakua
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To: amakua

Man, I have to say, that's beautiful.


2 posted on 05/18/2004 3:08:40 PM PDT by atomicpossum (Hey, I wouldn't touch Camryn Manheim's uterus on a bet.)
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To: amakua

Good to know the Highlanders have still got it.


3 posted on 05/18/2004 3:08:56 PM PDT by Argus
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To: amakua

The Queen's own, God bless them!!!


4 posted on 05/18/2004 3:13:12 PM PDT by Diva
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To: Argus
Having seen the grisly, slaughterhouse remains of the men, women and children prisoners murdered out of hand at Cawnpore by rebellious Sepoy regiments' mutineers, the 93rd, with other British and loyal Indian units fought with a vengeance up to Lucknow where the beleaguered Residency still held out.

On 11 November 1857 the 93rd faced the two great fortified enclosures of the Sikander Baugh and behind it the Shah Najif. The 93rd swept forward to the pipes playing the "Haughs of Cromdell". Nine officers and men got through a hole in the wall and, fighting hand to hand held the way open for the rest, eventually forcing the gate open. Fierce fighting continued and as evening fell the enclosure was cleared. Two thousand mutineers lay dead inside, most of them killed by the bayonet.

Sir Colin called on the 93rd once more and sword in hand led them against the Shah Najif. After a terrific cannonade against the walls with little effect and hostile fire beating down, a 93rd Sergeant literally found a back door in. The Regiment rushed round and inside to see the last of the mutineers scurrying out yet another back way. At dawn the Highlanders uncased their Colours on top of a tower inside so those in the Residency knew relief was at hand. Drummer boy Ross who helped in this feat played "Yankee Doodle" on his bugle "so my American cousins (Canadian relatives) would know I was here!". The harried defenders of the Residency were brought out safely and the 93rd had won six Victoria Crosses.

5 posted on 05/18/2004 3:15:33 PM PDT by Argus
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To: amakua; SAMWolf

From basic training: "There are only two kinds of bayonet fighters: The quick and the dead."


6 posted on 05/18/2004 3:15:47 PM PDT by snopercod (Freedom can be preserved only if it is treated as a supreme principle which must not be sacrificed)
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To: amakua
Hmm...We were just practicing w/ Bokens (wooden swords) last night in my martial arts class...up close, in many cases better than a rifle...there's no jamming/ammo needed. :))
7 posted on 05/18/2004 3:16:18 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :)
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To: Argus

Lucky Brits! I think our last bayonet assault was in Korea.

Semper Fi,


8 posted on 05/18/2004 3:16:31 PM PDT by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (Sniper: "One shot, one kill". Machinegunner: "One shot, one kill...again, & again & again".)
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To: amakua

I hope they did it to the music of a bagpipe.


9 posted on 05/18/2004 3:16:45 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Diva

Heck with the Queen - they're Scotsmen!!!


10 posted on 05/18/2004 3:17:04 PM PDT by PaForBush
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To: amakua

Reminds me of this movie with the wooden soldiers with their bayonets drawn.

11 posted on 05/18/2004 3:21:41 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: PaForBush

Ha. The Shiites got kilt by the men in kilts. Double Ha-Ha!


12 posted on 05/18/2004 3:23:01 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Liberalism is the end result of too many people peeing in the gene pool.)
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To: snopercod

The cry of the bayonet fighter; "More Ammo!!"


13 posted on 05/18/2004 3:23:07 PM PDT by SAMWolf (KERRY LIED . . . While Good Men Died)
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To: amakua

When this happened in Aden...they took away our bayonets as an uncalled for use of brutality.

Up the Argyll's

For a history of the A&SH in Aden

http://www.britains-smallwars.com/Aden/700.htm


14 posted on 05/18/2004 3:23:34 PM PDT by ijcr (Age and treachery will always overcome youth and ability.)
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To: Cicero

Bayonet Charge and the music of a bagpipe...thats' one scary battle scene.


15 posted on 05/18/2004 3:24:13 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :)
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To: 2nd Bn, 11th Mar

The order to "fix bayonets" was given during the Battle for the Ia Drang valley in Vietnam if I'm not mistaken. I think there was one or more instances in the current Iraq war as well.


16 posted on 05/18/2004 3:24:56 PM PDT by Taquito
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To: SAMWolf

Ya' got that right. LOL! I was never good at that thrust/parry stuff. Or was it the other way around?


17 posted on 05/18/2004 3:27:48 PM PDT by snopercod (Freedom can be preserved only if it is treated as a supreme principle which must not be sacrificed)
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To: 2nd Bn, 11th Mar
Are you referring to this one?

Colonel (then Captain) Lewis Millett, today's honorary Colonel of the regiment, earned the Medal of Honor when he led Easy Company, 2nd Battalion, 27th Infantry in a bayonet assault against a fortified Chinese hilltop. It was described by an Army historian as ". . . the greatest bayonet attack by US soldiers since Cold Harbor in the Civil War."

18 posted on 05/18/2004 3:28:35 PM PDT by Argus
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To: amakua

OH, YES!!!


19 posted on 05/18/2004 3:29:04 PM PDT by redhead (If it ain't ONE damnfool thing, it's two or three...)
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To: Argus
The harried defenders of the Residency were brought out safely and the 93rd had won six Victoria Crosses.

That's some sustained and heavy action--and it resulted in [only] six medals. Those Victoria Crosses must have been a lot harder to earn than a more modern "Kerry Purple Heart."

20 posted on 05/18/2004 3:31:05 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Taquito; ALOHA RONNIE
The order to "fix bayonets" was given during the Battle for the Ia Drang valley in Vietnam if I'm not mistaken. I think there was one or more instances in the current Iraq war as well.

Ask AR about that....

21 posted on 05/18/2004 3:34:13 PM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: Pearls Before Swine
The largest number of VCs won in a single day was 24 at the second relief of Lucknow on 16 Nov 1857 during the Indian Mutiny.

That was a very nasty and hard fought campaign.

22 posted on 05/18/2004 3:36:51 PM PDT by Argus
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To: reagan_fanatic
Ha. The Shiites got kilt by the men in kilts. Double Ha-Ha!

And those that weren't kilt got the shiite whupped out of them!

23 posted on 05/18/2004 3:37:07 PM PDT by AlaskaErik
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To: amakua

"Ladies from Hell", as the Krauts called them.


24 posted on 05/18/2004 3:38:02 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: 2nd Bn, 11th Mar

25 posted on 05/18/2004 3:38:02 PM PDT by John Lenin (If there were no God, there would be no Atheists)
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To: amakua
"It was very bloody and it was difficult to count all their dead . . . There were bodies floating in the river."

It has a nice ring to it.

26 posted on 05/18/2004 3:38:17 PM PDT by Oatka
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To: amakua

Heads?! . . . Heads?! . . .

Why I believe you might be right sarge, I guess these guys did have heads when they came in here!


27 posted on 05/18/2004 3:40:59 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: Taquito

US Marines featured on part of Discovery Channel's 1 year anniversary of the Iraq invasion talked about bayonetting Iraqi's as they swept through the outskirts of Baghdad.


28 posted on 05/18/2004 3:42:06 PM PDT by Ajnin
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To: amakua

These are some very tough customers. Twenty of the enemy dead, only three of their own wounded. Hats off to them. Glad they're on our side.


29 posted on 05/18/2004 3:42:07 PM PDT by Rocky (Kerry cannot decide what style of empty suit he should be)
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To: Oatka
"It was very bloody and it was difficult to count all their dead,"

I hope these type of reports continue.

30 posted on 05/18/2004 3:43:27 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: amakua

Highlander Bayonet Charge Bump

31 posted on 05/18/2004 3:44:01 PM PDT by paleocon patriarch
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To: John Lenin

That third guy in don't look too Scottish to me.


32 posted on 05/18/2004 3:45:15 PM PDT by atomicpossum (Hey, I wouldn't touch Camryn Manheim's uterus on a bet.)
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To: snopercod
"What kind of bayonet fighters are you, trainees?"

"The quick, Drill Sergeant!"

(Sneer) "You look like the dead to me."

33 posted on 05/18/2004 3:51:06 PM PDT by Mr Ducklips
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To: dd5339; Vic3O3

The Brits amy have some screwy things going on at home, but there's nothing wrong with the fighting spirit of the troops!!
Just a little WOG BASHING!!!


34 posted on 05/18/2004 3:51:44 PM PDT by cavtrooper21 (Response times: My 12 gauge - 30 seconds / my .45 - 4 seconds/ Local police - ?)
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To: amakua

I JUST LOVE THOSE SCOTS!
being a marine vet and a calvinist how could you not!


35 posted on 05/18/2004 3:54:58 PM PDT by alpha-8-25-02 (saved by GRACE and GRACE alone)
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To: SAMWolf

The cry of the bayonet fighter; "More Ammo!!"

Cry of the loan survivor of a Highlander bayonet charge,

"Go back, It's a trap, the're two o' em!!!!"

36 posted on 05/18/2004 3:58:21 PM PDT by ancient_geezer (Equality, the French disease: Everyone is equal beneath the guillotine.)
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To: amakua

Recalls the story from a few weeks ago of the young Salvadoran soldier with his pocket knife sending a group of these thugs dead, dying, and running for their pathetic lives. It appears these posers are better at cowardly terrorist bombings against innocent women and children than facing a cold blade wielded by a real man with cojones.


37 posted on 05/18/2004 3:58:42 PM PDT by fidelis (fidelis)
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To: atomicpossum

Oc course he doesn't, those are proud members of the 82nd airborne.


38 posted on 05/18/2004 4:08:56 PM PDT by John Lenin (If there were no God, there would be no Atheists)
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To: amakua

Together in peace, together in war.

39 posted on 05/18/2004 4:13:47 PM PDT by TonyInOhio (Thus is faith: To believe, but not to have seen.)
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To: amakua

"First Bayonet Charge since the Falklands War"

Did their super duper British rifles jam again?
If you are close enough to stick them, you are close enough to shoot them!

None the less, GOOD JOB!


40 posted on 05/18/2004 4:14:59 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (DEMS STILL LIE like yellow dogs.)
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To: amakua

Now if we could just get these guys near Michael Moore and let them know that there are at least 20 bad guys hiding in the various folds and crevices of Moore.


41 posted on 05/18/2004 4:19:30 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson
Now if we could just get these guys near Michael Moore and let them know that there are at least 20 bad guys hiding in the various folds and crevices of Moore.

You don't need soldiers, just send in the whalers.

42 posted on 05/18/2004 4:34:28 PM PDT by atomicpossum (Hey, I wouldn't touch Camryn Manheim's uterus on a bet.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Yeah, a VC was VERY hard to get -- six VCs from one engagement is a lot.


43 posted on 05/18/2004 4:37:05 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: atomicpossum

Paging the Macah Tribe, paging the Macah Tribe!


44 posted on 05/18/2004 4:37:16 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: headsonpikes
Ladies from Hades!
45 posted on 05/18/2004 4:41:06 PM PDT by lt.america (Captain was already taken)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Close quarters response...


46 posted on 05/18/2004 4:44:15 PM PDT by massatoosits (just ask the Brits...)
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To: atomicpossum

47 posted on 05/18/2004 4:50:55 PM PDT by John Lenin (If there were no God, there would be no Atheists)
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To: amakua
nothing like the old command, FIX BAYONETS!
48 posted on 05/18/2004 4:51:21 PM PDT by OldCorps
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To: amakua

Heck, I say reconstitute the good old swordsmanship which was common right up to about 1900. I bet all the old prints to build US Army and Marines swords are still in archives. Seriously, it's cheap, effective and from a psy ops perspective, priceless.


49 posted on 05/18/2004 4:51:21 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Right makes right!)
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To: GOP_1900AD
Both NCO's and officers of the Untited States Marine Corps still carry swords.

The officer's sword is a copy of the very sword awarded to Lt. Pressley by the ruler of Tripoli after the Marines defeated the Barbary Pirates.

50 posted on 05/18/2004 5:07:19 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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