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Saddam Had WMDs; The Left Could Care Less
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | 6/19/04 | Frank J Gaffney Jr.

Posted on 05/19/2004 1:41:45 AM PDT by kattracks

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To: kattracks

you know, the idiots who keep moving the goalposts for confirmation of Iraqi WMDs are the same morons who think that if you have a rifle, pistol, and 500 rounds for each means that you have an ARSENAL.

Why do we let them get away with this crap?


41 posted on 05/19/2004 5:32:03 AM PDT by King Prout (the difference between "trained intellect" and "indoctrinated intellectual" is an Abyssal gulf)
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To: driftless

*standing ovation*


42 posted on 05/19/2004 5:34:46 AM PDT by King Prout (the difference between "trained intellect" and "indoctrinated intellectual" is an Abyssal gulf)
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To: ActionNewsBill
One shell with three litres of sarin is not exactly what I would call a smoking gun.

Hans Blitz and the Inspectors (sounds like a bad garage band) didn't even realize that Saddam had binary chemical munitions, and weren't looking for them. The shell was unmarked - which means there could have been several pallets of them in one of Saddam's many munitions dumps, and the inspectors wouldn't have even known they were there. We simply don't know - but that's the entire point - we're literally back at square one with weapons inspections in Iraq.

I agree this doesn't prove all of the pre-war claims about Saddam and WMDS. But couple this with the WMDs seized in Jordan that were planned to be part of a terrorist attack, and the opponents to Bush's invasion of Iraq can't any longer honestly state that Bush lied about WMDs. However, the libs are doing the next best thing - they simply pretend this news doesn't exist, or, if that fails because someone is rude enough to bring up the subject, they'll downplay the find, just as Blix did and you did here.

43 posted on 05/19/2004 5:36:25 AM PDT by dirtboy (John Kerry - Hillary without the fat ankles and the FBI files...)
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To: ActionNewsBill
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44 posted on 05/19/2004 5:37:05 AM PDT by PigRigger (Send donations to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org)
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To: dirtboy

Some points to make about all of this. At the debates, this will come up and in front of the entire nation, Bush will lay it out and make sure the nation knows that Kerry was for it before he was against it.

One or one thousand make no difference. One gallon of Sarin in the NYC subway system will kill more people than 9/11.

It is time for the country to pull together and right now Bush is president. Anyone who turned this matter political needs to be labeled as unpatriotic. And I would start with Kennedy, Levin and Leahy.

Do it on TV in front of the world. Demand an apology. Make them whine to the nation that it was in the best interests that freedom of speech and the press be adhered to as a given right by the constitution.



45 posted on 05/19/2004 5:43:58 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Only difference between the liberals and the Nazis is that the liberals love the Communists.)
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To: futureceo31; 17th Miss Regt

Another Dem talking point, besides "no WMD's", is "the President is distracted by the war in Iraq instead of concentrating on al Qaeda" when they KNOW al Qaeda is in Iraq fighting our troops and bin Laden is hiding in Pakistan or Iran, where our troops are unable to go.

The Democrats and their cohorts in the media are the enemy within -- trying to bring our President down.


46 posted on 05/19/2004 5:45:06 AM PDT by RottiBiz (Help end Freepathons -- become a Monthly Donor.)
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To: ActionNewsBill
One shell with three litres of sarin is not exactly what I would call a smoking gun.

No, it's not a smoking gun.

It is however, a Weapon of Mass Destruction.

47 posted on 05/19/2004 5:47:28 AM PDT by Palmetto (Gorelicker should be given 20 years.........in the chair.)
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To: ActionNewsBill

One shell with three litres of sarin is not exactly what I would call a smoking gun

It is if YOU are the gun's target.


48 posted on 05/19/2004 5:57:54 AM PDT by USVet6792Retired (An Armed Society is a Polite Society)
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To: ActionNewsBill
One shell with three litres of sarin is not exactly what I would call a smoking gun.

With all due respect, maybe you need to quit thinking as an action newsman.
Your objective appears only to disprove the Bush Administration instead of proving how correct they were/are.

49 posted on 05/19/2004 6:09:55 AM PDT by jla (http://johnkerryisdangerousforamerica.blogspot.com)
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To: rdb3
But riddle me this, Batman: What about our own anti-war Right who swore up and down that Saddam didn't have WMD?

Same species as the lefty ostriches, different colored feathers.

50 posted on 05/19/2004 6:13:54 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jla
Your objective appears only to disprove the Bush Administration instead of proving how correct they were/are.

One shell of possible sarin gas seems to be a pretty weak reason to go to war.

But hey...you guys have all the answers so don't let me rain on your parade.

George Bush is President, and everything is wonderful!

51 posted on 05/19/2004 6:19:33 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill
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To: rdb3
But riddle me this, Batman: What about our own anti-war Right who swore up and down that Saddam didn't have WMD?

Yep... so far right that they are coming back around on the left.

52 posted on 05/19/2004 6:24:48 AM PDT by Tamzee (Kerry's just a gigolo, and everywhere he goes, people know the part he's playing...)
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To: ActionNewsBill; cwboelter; oldglory; MinuteGal; Luke FReeman; gonzo; sheikdetailfeather

Kay's comments show war was justified
Knight Ridder/Spokesman-Review | 1-31-2004 | Joel Mowbray
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1069190/posts?page=11#11
[snip] Click on link to read article.

One succinct reply:

I agree...I don't think Kay is talking out of both sides of his mouth. I think what you have are certain indivduals with an agenda who pick and choose...and take out of context, his statements.

While it is true that he didn't find...nor does "he" believe, that any stockpiles of WMDs existed, he has said that the ISG should continue its investigation because the possiblty still exists that they may find something.

After watching his testimony first hand (instead of getting the media's interpretation), he concluded that Saddam went to great lengths to conceal a procurement program that was ready to go once the inspectors were gone.

While he didn't find the WMDs, he did document the infrastructure that was in place, including what he called new construction on buildings that were to be used for Saddam's nuclear program. He also mentioned how Saddam was getting wiser, and instead of leaving "stockpiles" around to be found and destroyed, he was concentrating on his delivery systems (missiles)...which was a clear violation of 1441.

What I found most disturbing was that (according to Kay) Saddam was getting to the point were almost everything could be done indigenously...were he wouldn't have to import materials from out of country. This made him a greater danger because he wouldn't need stockpiles, as he could just whip somthing up when he needed it.

The bottom line is Kay unequivocally said that Saddam was in violation of 1441. And for those who insisted that UNSCOM was right...and that they could've got to the bottom of this, he says, no they couldn't of.

It was only the fact that Saddam was removed from the process that Kay was able to gain this info from people who weren't willing to talk when Saddam was in power.

As much as liberals hate to hear this, WMDs were only one of the problems in Iraq; the other was the man who would use them.

As liberals readily point to other countries that have WMDs that we haven't invaded, they conveniently leave out that these other countries don't have Saddam Husseins who have used them.

Saddam has had over a decade to change the way he has done business...and thanks to our diplomatic efforts, we gave him almost a year to hide it all.

11 posted on 01/31/2004 6:07:17 PM EST by cwboelter (Dean = Dr. Jeckyll exposing his Hyde)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1069190/posts?page=11#11


53 posted on 05/19/2004 6:32:06 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (Entrenched DemocRAT union-backed bureaucrats quietly sabotage President Bush every day.)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
The left does care.

I disagree. At its heart, the opposition to the Bush administration is based on fundamentally different opinions regarding socio/economic policy.

Iraq is just a diversion - another reason to hate Bush. WMD, prison scandals, et al, regardless of their respective truth/falsity, merely provide texture to the opposition's primary cause, mainly, promotion of social democracy.

54 posted on 05/19/2004 6:34:25 AM PDT by Snerfling
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To: ActionNewsBill
One shell with three litres of sarin is not exactly what I would call a smoking gun.

First of all, there have been two shells found with chemicals. Then there was botulinum toxin, the most lethal substance known found in a scientist's refrigerator, incidently about the same time the centrifuge was dug up from under a rose garden. Finally, are you willing to risk our soldier lives by living in denial?

55 posted on 05/19/2004 6:40:45 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: jwalsh07
Same species as the lefty ostriches, different colored feathers.

You got that right. Lord knows that I'm sick and tired of all of them.


56 posted on 05/19/2004 6:45:32 AM PDT by rdb3 ($710.96... The price of freedom.)
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To: ravingnutter
Finally, are you willing to risk our soldier lives by living in denial?

Of course not. I just think it's a little too early to jump on the "We found the WMDs" bandwagon.

57 posted on 05/19/2004 6:46:19 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill ("Just because it's on TV, it doesn't mean it's true.")
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To: kattracks

When we DO find stockpiles of WMD, the left will just say that the war made it easier for terrorists to obtain these weapons.


58 posted on 05/19/2004 8:00:41 AM PDT by rudypoot
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To: Matchett-PI
In my opinion, the best analysis of David Kay's report was done by Andrew Sullivan.

He highlights all of report's important points and refutes the fallacious reporting of the leftist media. It's an outstanding article.

Andrew Sullivan: Read the (WMD) Report

59 posted on 05/19/2004 8:11:04 AM PDT by RottiBiz (Help end Freepathons -- become a Monthly Donor.)
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60 posted on 05/19/2004 10:26:41 AM PDT by Lexinom
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