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To: Russ7
fails to emphasize that we are still the world's best nation from a morality standpoint

Most powerful and the richest, yes. Most moral, how do you know, did you run some statistics? (unless you think that the power/wealth are same as virtue).

Anyway the key point is what Alexander Solzhenitsyn wrote:
"If only there were evil people somewhere, insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?"

I will take Solzhenitsyn anytime before Frum and Perle.

56 posted on 05/19/2004 5:45:49 AM PDT by A. Pole (<SARCASM> The genocide of Albanians was stopped in its tracks before it began.</S>)
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To: A. Pole

Pat pretty much nails it once again. The world does not even remotely resemble the cartoonish vision of good and evil spewed forth by Bush or in the stunningly simplistic rants of children like Perle and Frum.

America has a lot of house cleaning of it's own to do.


63 posted on 05/19/2004 5:53:21 AM PDT by Burkeman1 ("I said the government can't help you. I didn't say it couldn't hurt you." Chief Wiggam)
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To: A. Pole

It is not possible to separate us into good and evil...all Germans and Japanese were not evil,all Americans or even soldiers were not "good"..We nevertheless had a duty to defeat the countries.
We did not do it because our country was perfect...We had segregation,Jim Crow, and other wrong laws...but we did it because it was necessary. We were better, and still we had to cooperate with the murderous Stalin.

This enemy is not concentrated in one country...they are here and everywhere and our useful idiots give support to the notion that they are not really that dangerous..They forget the ideology driven zeal,the devastation they inflict and the fact the Islamofascists truly do want us under sharia or dead.

Getting a democracy in the middle east is a hope and a vision to enable that 7th century part of the world to concentrate on bettering their lives instead of ruining ours. Our country,warts and all, is head and shoulders above Saddam's Iraqi government and the people of Iraq may have a chance at much better days.

We are fighting those who do not want freedom for the Iraqis..They want power. Some are tied to Al Queda.


103 posted on 05/19/2004 6:28:37 AM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security!)
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