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To: johniegrad

"What some of us view as the moral descent of a great and Godly republic into imperial decadence, neocons see as their big chance to rule the world."

I had to re-think our ability to nation-build when I saw Hollywood's immorality rise up in that prison. Been thinking about it for over a week. Here is my conclusion:

If not us, then who? We are the best ones to liberate Iraq. We are far from perfect. And Buchanan, using his brilliant mind to side with the left on this issue, is one reason why we are far from perfect. He calls us neo-cons. He is a pseudo-con, running off to join the Reform Party and split the ticket, clearly helping Al Gore. Then HIS party endorses Ralph Nader. Buchanan is brilliant, but if ever a person were called a 'cocktail conservative', it's Buchanan.


7 posted on 05/19/2004 3:13:09 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (There is a Stark Difference: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1136092/posts?page=18)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
And Buchanan, using his brilliant mind to side with the left on this issue, is one reason why we are far from perfect.

You get a hi-five from me simply for recognizing this undoubted truth. He does it over and over.

Buchanan is brilliant, but if ever a person were called a 'cocktail conservative', it's Buchanan.

I wouldn't say he's a conservative with how I understand conservatism. He is a populist, through and through. Populism and conservatism are not the same.



20 posted on 05/19/2004 4:18:45 AM PDT by rdb3 ($710.96... The price of freedom.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

OK.

Now that our mission is "To Bring Democracy To Iraq and All Those Other Places Over There," are you telling us that we are going to help the Moslems with the First Amendment right to dance naked for tavern patrons?

While it is true that our faults do not abnegate our virtues--exactly when did this become a "War For Democracy?"

How about just eliminating AlQuaeda, Arthur???


28 posted on 05/19/2004 5:00:16 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
I had to re-think our ability to nation-build when I saw Hollywood's immorality rise up in that prison.

Blaming Hollywood for their behavior?

What happened to personal responsibility?

Very weak.

159 posted on 05/19/2004 7:19:03 AM PDT by sakic
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

If not us, who - that's easy, no one else would have done it if we hadn't; but we did it because we had a man in the whitehouse with a moral compas pointing at what God's word says is right. You're proud of his moral and unmoving stand on the one hand; but, the moment you're faced with specifics, you call Bush a kook by attacking others with the same beliefs .. is that essentially it. Buchanan is right on this one, whatever you think of his politics. Or did we forget conveniently that people can be right on any number of issues and still belong to another ideology.


166 posted on 05/19/2004 7:27:21 AM PDT by Havoc ("The line must be drawn here. This far and no further!")
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
"If not us, then who? We are the best ones to liberate Iraq. We are far from perfect."

All true. The fact is that dispite the debacle of the sexual abuse. We are going to have an open court marshall in Iraq. It will be followed intensly in the Middle East, because America's enemies will be too blinded by their desire to say "I told you so...America is the Great Satan" to realize the following. This public court marshall is going to be one of the greatest object lessons in how fair and just court battles are waged that America could hope to demonstrate to the middle east.

267 posted on 05/19/2004 10:16:14 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

"If not us, then who? We are the best ones to liberate Iraq."

great post. :)


502 posted on 05/19/2004 3:10:52 PM PDT by proud American in Canada ("The only important lesson of Vietnam is this: Democrats lose wars." -- Ann Coulter, Treason)
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