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More on Sarin (IMPORTANT)
The Indepundit ^ | May 20, 2004 | Smash

Posted on 05/21/2004 2:50:53 PM PDT by swilhelm73

More on SarinFacts

During the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq war, Saddam’s military used sarin and other chemical agents against Iran and the Kurdish population. They primarily employed helicopters equipped with agricultural-type sprayers, as well as a crude type of chemical warhead that required the ingredients to be mixed on the battlefield immediately before firing. (I’d hate to be the guy with that job).

There is no evidence that Saddam’s military employed more sophisticated “mix-in-flight” binary chemical artillery shells during the Iran-Iraq war, nor even that they possessed such technology at that time.

After the First Gulf War, Iraq was required to declare to UN weapons inspectors all aspects of its chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons programs, to include a complete inventory of all existing or destroyed munitions. They did NOT declare any binary chemical warheads.

In October 1995 (after the UN discovered some previously undisclosed documents), Saddam revised his weapons declaration, admitting that his scientists had developed “prototypes” of shells capable of delivering binary sarin, but claimed that the project had never reached full production. UN inspectors noted at the time, however, that “new documentation shows production in quantities well beyond prototype levels.”

The artillery shell discovered earlier this week, according to General Kimmitt, contained a “mix-in-flight” binary chemical warhead. This type of warhead, as noted above, was not used in the Iran-Iraq war, and was not included by Saddam in his 1991 weapons declaration.

Assumptions

The Pentagon isn’t making this up.

The artillery shell was of Iraqi manufacture.

The shell wasn’t a prototype.

The shell was part of a larger stockpile.

Analysis

Sometime between 1988-95, Saddam developed and manufactured sophisticated, “mix-in-flight” binary chemical weapons.

He failed to declare these weapons, as required, to UN weapons inspectors.

Iraq did not destroy all of its chemical weapons.

A stockpile of artillery shells, including at least some that contain chemical warheads, has been found by “insurgents” in Iraq.

I’ll explore the further implications of this in a later post.

UPDATE: Scott Ritter provides an alternative explanation in today's Christian Science Monitor.

If the 155-mm shell was a "dud" fired long ago - which is highly likely - then it would not be evidence of the secret stockpile of weapons of mass destruction (WMD) that the Bush administration used as justification to invade Iraq. While Ritter has served, in recent years, as one of Saddam's most prominent Western apologists, his theory is technically plausible -- if not, as he claims "highly likely." Indeed, the Ritter theory would be relatively simple to prove (or disprove) by examining the shell itself. A 155mm shell that had been fired from an artillery piece would show visible evidence that it had been fired, as Ritter himself acknowledges.

Of course, the fact that another shell filled with mustard gas was recently discovered near Baghdad would make it appear much more likely that both weapons were recovered from the same chemical weapons stockpile, rather than Ritter's theory that two chemical "artillery duds" would coincidentally turn up within a couple of weeks of each other.

(Hat tip: Blaster)


TOPICS: War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraq; sarin; wmd

1 posted on 05/21/2004 2:50:53 PM PDT by swilhelm73
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To: swilhelm73

Why do people even bother to print Ritters name, much less use anything he says in print.
He was marginalized years ago.


2 posted on 05/21/2004 2:54:46 PM PDT by cavtrooper21 (Response times: My 12 gauge - 30 seconds / my .45 - 4 seconds/ Local police - ?)
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To: swilhelm73

bmp


3 posted on 05/21/2004 3:39:26 PM PDT by CharlotteVRWC
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To: swilhelm73

Saddam didn't have binary mix in flight shells back when Ritter claims this shell was made (and supposedly used).


4 posted on 05/21/2004 3:41:53 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: swilhelm73
If it is a mix in flight shell as it is claimed Ritter is obviously wrong about its origin.
5 posted on 05/21/2004 3:43:42 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: swilhelm73

I have another alternative explanation. Donld Rumsfeld and/or Dick Cheney snuck over there and planted it just so they could prove that sadam had WMDs.

What do ya think, am I ready for Air America?


6 posted on 05/21/2004 9:59:36 PM PDT by Valin (Hating people is like burning down your house to kill a rat)
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To: DB

So rather than this being a story about the WMD find, the story is about what Ritter says about the WMD find, introducing SOME doubt as to whether or NOT it is a legitimate WMD find. Once again proving that the MEDIA has an agenda and if facts are found that do NOT coincide with that AGENDA, then doubts must be raised to discredit those facts. SPIN SPIN SPIN


7 posted on 05/21/2004 10:07:38 PM PDT by PISANO (NEVER FORGET 911 !!!!)
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To: Valin
What do ya think, am I ready for Air America?

Bah! You are still an amateur!

As we all know, Dick Cheney is a brilliant, yet evil, biochemist, who found time away from his hobby of making anthrax to make some advanced sarin artillery shells.

Cheney then sent Rummy to Iraq (remember his recent surprise trip?) with one of these shells to turn into an IED. Rummy, of course, is trained in explosives and invisibility so he was able to do it without any witnesses. Or if there were witness he shot them all with his death ray.

And Halliburton just pattened a battlefield sarin antidote...coincidence??? I think not!

[/tinfoil hat]

Of course to be really convincing that should have been in all caps and mentioned election 2k at some point...but you get the point. :)
8 posted on 05/21/2004 10:12:30 PM PDT by swilhelm73
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To: PISANO

If we're lucky (real lucky), Bush's speech Monday will be about finding a large stash of these Sarin loaded in flight mixing shells.


9 posted on 05/21/2004 10:34:27 PM PDT by DB (©)
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