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Conservative Episcopalians protest 'wedding'
Washington Times ^ | 5/22/04 | Julia Duin

Posted on 05/22/2004 2:39:54 AM PDT by kattracks

Edited on 07/12/2004 4:15:27 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

A conservative Episcopal group will protest a same-sex "wedding" taking place today on church property in the rural community of Leonardtown in St. Mary's County, Maryland.

The ceremony involving two lesbians is so controversial among the members of St. Andrew's Episcopal Church that it was moved out of the sanctuary and into the parish hall. The church's pastor, the Rev. Paula Halliday, decided to not participate.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: aac; ecusa; episcopal; homosexualagenda; marriage; prisoners; religiousleft; samesexmarriage
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1 posted on 05/22/2004 2:39:55 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks

So let me get this. An Episcopal church has a pastor that had an adulterous affair. He was suspended. His wife, also a pastor? is not attending this ceremony because she is stressed, and another clergy member is being brought in to perform a gay wedding. This is splitting the congregation.

Sounds like the problems here are just being amplified by the situation. This church sounds like it had major problems before this "wedding" ever happened. Sounds like a power struggle, lack of pastoral leadership, etc.


2 posted on 05/22/2004 3:08:06 AM PDT by I still care
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To: kattracks

From an article a few days ago in the WorldNetDailey:

***In a free country, deluded people can believe all sorts of things, and act accordingly on their own. But when the law imposes this understanding on everyone, government is creating lies and eventually will use force to promote acceptance of the lies.

In the old Soviet Union, the government routinely lied to the people – so much so that the Russian people became cynical and dejected. They developed a repertoire of black humor to cover their pain. We didn't think it could happen in the United States, but we were wrong. ***


3 posted on 05/22/2004 3:14:39 AM PDT by kitkat (PLEASE STEAL THIS TAG: "The democrats would rather win the WH than the war." - Tom DeLay))
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To: kattracks

"There exists no scriptural foundation for..."

the ordination of women, among others, comes to mind. The Episcopal Church is becoming more and more irrelavent.


4 posted on 05/22/2004 4:27:16 AM PDT by VMI70 (...but two Wrights made an airplane)
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To: VMI70

"The Episcopal church is becoming more and more irrelavent"


Sadly, that is true. As a "cradle Episcopalian" from several generations of Episcopalians/Church of England, my heart is broken. The faith has always believed in tolerance and acceptance, but did not know when/where to draw the line. Now it is a mess and can't be undone. Most Episcopalians will become American Anglicans and all of those beautiful, old churches will be left in the hands of those.......well, I'll let you fill in the blank.


5 posted on 05/22/2004 4:38:07 AM PDT by toomanygrasshoppers ("Put down that fiddle and DO SOMETHING!")
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To: VMI70
The Episcopal Church is becoming more and more irrelevant.

Find an Anglican Mission in America congregation near you!

http://www.anglicanmissioninamerica.org

6 posted on 05/22/2004 5:42:18 AM PDT by Huber (Clinton's military policies caused the Abu Ghraib debacle)
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To: VMI70

""There exists no scriptural foundation for..."

the ordination of women, among others, comes to mind. The Episcopal Church is becoming more and more irrelavent."

Well this is what the "men" say, since they love to blame "EVE" since the beginning.

"Ordination of women", is not what the sin is about, it is the rejection of the instruction about "Sodom".

Matthew 11:24 But I say unto you, That it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment, than for thee.


7 posted on 05/22/2004 5:52:56 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: VMI70

http://www.anglicanmissioninamerica.org


8 posted on 05/22/2004 5:57:17 AM PDT by Huber (Clinton's military policies caused the Abu Ghraib debacle)
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To: ahadams2

More stuff hitting the fan ping.


9 posted on 05/22/2004 6:05:23 AM PDT by secret garden (School's out!)
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To: kattracks

Unbelievable. The selfishness of these queers continues to astonish me. They don't care how many churches and communities they wreck, they are going to have their God-damned (and I mean that literally!) weddings no matter what.


10 posted on 05/22/2004 6:21:14 AM PDT by Dems_R_Losers (And now, Dems_R_EVIL --- Pukin Dog)
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To: kattracks
"Christian marriage is a life-long, monogamous union between a man and a woman."

The fact that this even needs to be said demonstrates that we have already lost the culture war.

11 posted on 05/22/2004 7:28:39 AM PDT by montag813 ("A nation can survive fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.")
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To: *Homosexual Agenda; EdReform; scripter; GrandMoM; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; ...

Homosexual Agenda Ping. At least some Episcopalians aren't taking it lying down.

But it seems as though some are protesting too little, too late.

Attachment to an organization instead of the universal truth of God's laws isn't a secure attachment.

But I'm happy to see some people voicing their opposition to "gay" marriage - especially the nastiness of "religious" blessing of same.

Let me know if anyone wants on/off this pinglist.


12 posted on 05/22/2004 7:38:19 AM PDT by little jeremiah ("Gay Marriage" - a Weapon of Mass. Destruction!)
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To: toomanygrasshoppers
Most Episcopalians will become American Anglicans and all of those beautiful, old churches will be left in the hands of those.......well, I'll let you fill in the blank.

The building are...just buildings...The "Church" is not the building...The Church is the people...

You can start a Church in someone's unused garage, if need be...Even an Episcopalian Church...

13 posted on 05/22/2004 7:40:36 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Dems_R_Losers

It's not that they don't care how many churches and communities they damage or destroy, that is indeed their aim and their purpose.

If they just wanted to live their lives the way they want without interference, we wouldn't be reading 15 articles a day about "gay marriage", hatespeech, indoctrination in schools, suits against Boy Scouts, infiltration in Big Brothers and Sisters, the craziness in the Episcopalian and other churches, and so on.

They don't want to live their lives privately. That is a total lie, they want to change the moral fabric of human civilization so there are no moral restraints against ANY sexual activity. They basically want to turn not only our country but everywhere into a brothel type atmosphere. In order to do this they need to indoctrinate children, which they are VERY busy doing.


14 posted on 05/22/2004 7:46:59 AM PDT by little jeremiah ("Gay Marriage" - a Weapon of Mass. Destruction!)
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To: Just mythoughts
"Ordination of women", is not what the sin is about, it is the rejection of the instruction about "Sodom".

Back in the 1960s the ECUSA started to accept divorces, then they got women 'priests', now they've got a gay Bishop. It's all part of the same process. Conservative Episcopalians who think that this is a new issue are deluding themselves, before the ECUSA has any chance of moving forwards it has to repudiate all of its errors, but just the latest one. I'm a member of the Church of England, if we went as far as ECUSA I would become a Roman Catholic at the drop of a hat.
15 posted on 05/22/2004 9:08:16 AM PDT by tjwmason (A voice from Merry England.)
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To: tjwmason
"Back in the 1960s the ECUSA started to accept divorces, then they got women 'priests', now they've got a gay Bishop. It's all part of the same process. Conservative Episcopalians who think that this is a new issue are deluding themselves, before the ECUSA has any chance of moving forwards it has to repudiate all of its errors, but just the latest one. I'm a member of the Church of England, if we went as far as ECUSA I would become a Roman Catholic at the drop of a hat."

Well now, point of fact about divorce, it is written that our Heavenly Father divorced Israel, and our Heavenly Father never made getting divorced the unpardonable sin. Repentance is what is required for the "sins" that cause the sin of divorcement. Has Israel repented of her sins that cause our Heavenly Father to divorce her?????

Now seems to me that Deborah in the book of Judges was ordained to hold that position by our Heavenly Father. It was man who demanded a king and our Heavenly Father let them have what they demanded and even told them what the consequences would be by demanding a king.

Now in Acts 2:17 where Peter made Joel 2:28-31 part of the New Testament and it clearly states

And it shall come to pass in the last days,' saith God, "I will pour out of My Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:.....

Now if our Heavenly Father tells us in two places that "daughters" will prophesy, then where does "MAN" get the nerve to claim women cannot be ordained.

Seems to me that what is missing in the "churches" the world over is specifically told to Christians in Revelation 2 and 3 by John who was taken "in Spirit" to the LORD's DAY, which has not happened yet.
16 posted on 05/22/2004 9:25:19 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: toomanygrasshoppers

The homosexual movement uses Christian compassion to the Churchs detriment.


17 posted on 05/22/2004 9:31:08 AM PDT by justanotherday
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To: kattracks
"As clergy, we are given a sacred trust," Bishop Chane said in a statement. "When we cross that line, it's a very serious business. It does great damage to those of us in [the priesthood] and to the congregations."

Nobody notices the irony of this comment?

18 posted on 05/22/2004 9:41:16 AM PDT by WOSG (Peace through Victory! Iraq victory, W victory, American victory!)
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To: Just mythoughts

There was this chap around in first-century Palestine who said something along the lines of "what therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder, whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another committeth adultery against her. And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery" (hint see S. Mark 10:9-12). I cannot remember homoerasty being made into the unpardonable sin either (I was always taught that it was blasphemy against the Holy Ghost).

You cite that Deborah was made a judge, true, and so what. I have no objection to women being made judges today. I am talking about Priests. Can you tell me of a woman made into an O.T. Priest, or even Levite.

Our Lord selected 12 men as His Apostles, He made them into the first Bishops, and gave them the governance of His Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. From that point onwards, all bar heretics realised that there was a significance to this exclusively male order, and preserved it for the Sacrament of Ordination.

There were NO women-priests before 1942. Christ governs His Church, and she is continually inspired by the Holy Ghost, therefore it follows that the Holy Ghost lied to the Church for nearly 2000 years about women-priests (and continued to lie to the largest parts of it, the R.C. Church and the Orthodox), or those small parts which now attempt to ordain women (and at the same time embrace homoerasty, divorce, and in some cases blatent and clear paganism) are in error.


19 posted on 05/22/2004 9:44:08 AM PDT by tjwmason (A voice from Merry England.)
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To: ahadams2

ping


20 posted on 05/22/2004 9:44:59 AM PDT by sionnsar (sionnsar: the part of the bagpipe where the melody comes out |||| http://trad-anglican.faithweb.com/)
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