Correction, people died in the Iraqi prison.
Posted on 05/22/2004 7:26:44 PM PDT by JohnEBoy
First the shock of the Abu Ghraib prison photos, then the aftershock: a surprising debate over whether they should have been published at all. Jonah Goldberg of National Review Online argued that details of the prisoner abuse were about to pour out anyway. He said the inflammatory pictures were unnecessary. In response, Aaron Brown of CNN said: "You don't appreciate what happened in that prison until you see it."
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However, I see the two events differently.
1. Reno gave the direct order leading to the deaths of 80 Americans including children. Reno took responsibility for the orders and results. So far as we know, Rumsfeld gave no orders for actions observed in the photos.
2. People died at Waco. People were merely humiliated in the Iraq prison.
3. Even if we decry the methods used, the intent in Iraq was to gain information to save American soldier's lives. At Waco, the Branch Davidians had no comparable information.
Sorry, Mr. Leo, bad analogy.
Double standard? Rats have no standards.
Correction, people died in the Iraqi prison.
When will Sen. Kennedy release the Chappaquiddick torture photos? In fact, every time he whines about that photo of electrodes attached to a hooded Iraqi prisoner, MSNBC should air a side-by-side photo of Mary Jo Kopechne gasping for air while Teddy does the breaststroke to shore."
another brilliant gem from Joe Sabio
Oh the horrors! A naked man with panities on his head. Or a naked man cowering because a dog was barking at him. Then we have Nick Berg being decapitated. Hmm, bet ya Nick would have prefered this "abuse" rather than his grisley death.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ ooops, the Iraqi prisoner "abuse" bores me. Wake me up when the media is done venting and distracting from real horror.
"Even if we decry the methods used, the intent in Iraq was to gain information to save American soldier's lives"
That is what it seemed like until Friday when a US General said that they prisoners involved were not terrorist/insurgents/fighters (or whatever) but rather merely common criminals and that they had no intelligence information of value. Ms Trailer Trash, et al. had done it just for kicks.
#3, LOL. What liberal news report did you dig this one up from?
Last I checked, loss of pride and humilation isn't fatal and that is ALL that happened to the Iraqi prisoners.
About two years ago, I posted a link to the graphic execution - decapitation - of a Russian soldier at the hands of Chechen rebels. I posted that this will ultimately happen to Americans and sadly (Daniel Pearl, Nick Berg) I was correct. The next step for the insurgents and terrorists is to export this practice to our shores and it will come. The solution is to wheel west and stop this practice at the source: Saudi Arabia. If the President wants to win this war, and I have no doubt that he does, he needs to divorce himself from the House of Saud and do whatever is necessary to finish this destructive conflict.
From just about every news source carrying the abuse photos. Don't be a shmuck, denial just makes us weaker.
Dims are afflicted with global dimming disease. Power outage.
I don't know anyone else who cares, either.
W's biggest weakness is that he cares what his enemies think, or at least he allows them to define reality so that, if the New York Times says Americans are outraged by abuses in Iraq, he believes it.
He apologizes so that people who can never be satisfied, will be satisfied. He pledges our good faith in Islam so that mortal enemies, who don't care what he thinks, will care. He promises the sun, the moon, and the stars to his political enemies in the vain hope that they will like him, but they never will.
He is being driven by his enemies down a narrowing passageway to defeat.
He must lead, and destroy them-or he will be run over.
BINGO!
Also saw photos of dead American GI's
Screw the Iraqi's.... screw the press and anybody that tries to equate the US treatment of prisoners with the Iraqi's slitting of a throat, documented killing fields, shredding machine executions and "rape" rooms is so pathetic it borders on the insane.
I agree. Terrible analogy. And the defense department (ergo rumsfeld) did NOT sit on the story. It was publically announced in January. And then there's the matter of the congress being informed of the story also. If they wanted more info all they had to was pick up the phone and ASK for a further briefing!
Oh yeah?! Then why didn't you (CNN) play the video of Nick Berg being beheaded over and over and over again for weeks? Why do you no longer show pictures of the WTC and Pentagon attacks. Why did you show nothing but the most santized ones you could get away with at the time? Hmmm?
West? Saudi is mostly south of Iraq on all the maps I've seen.
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