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Rare Reserve Call Up
StrategyPage.com ^ | May 24, 2004

Posted on 05/24/2004 2:32:59 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4

The U.S. Armed Forces are calling to active duty the Individual Ready Reserve (IRR). These are soldiers in the reserve who are not assigned to a unit (and are thus not paid), but are still serving out there remaining time (that they signed up for) in the reserves or active duty. Until their time is expired, they are liable to call up. Some are going to be called up. This is rarely done.

There are 118,000 men and women in the IRR. All have received their military training, served on active or reserve duty and been honorably discharged, but still have several years of military service remaining to serve. When you join the armed forces, you agree to a certain number of years of active service, plus some more in the inactive reserve. There are also soldiers who joined the reserves and ended up in the inactive reserve. This is because they moved and could find no reserve unit near where they lived, or none with a need for their particular skills. Those in the IRR are supposed to keep the military aware of their current address and health status, but this is often not done. The National Guard has a similar category, the Inactive National Guard (ING).

By law (10 USC 12302), the president can declare a partial mobilization (which he has done) that allows putting reserve and National Guard troops on active duty for up to 24 months. The president can mobilize up to a million personnel this way. To mobilize more personnel requires a full mobilization, and only Congress can do that, at the request of the president. With a full mobilization, an unlimited number troops can be called up for the duration of the war, plus six months. A full mobilization allows the use of the Standby Reserves (former active duty or reserve troops who volunteer to make themselves available for wartime service) or the Retired Reserve (all retired military personnel automatically pass into the Retired Reserve.) The Standby and Retired reserves provide over 100,000 well trained and experienced personnel. The number is vague because eligibility for active service depends on whether the reservists could pass the active duty physical exam.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: callups; irrcallup; mobilization
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To: Shermy
These call ups are "expensive" in the short term. There is no will to take regulars from Korea and Germany. Also, increasing the size the army and Marines a few or more active divisions is a long term cost - which would require taking money out of Star Wars and other lucrative techy stuff whose industries return big bucks as political contributions.

I strongly suspect that you are wrong about Korea and Germany. We have already decided to pull the 2nd ID away from the DMZ towards locations south of the Han. I don't think you'll see U.S. troops in Krautland for much longer, either. No strategic need for them, although Rhein-Main is a nice base. A lot of U.S. assets will be returning to CONUS over the next five years from Europe, as the sham alliance known as NATO begins to wither away.

One of the things you will see in a second Bush term is an increase in end-strength of the leg infantry. The war aganst AQ is an intelligence war, but there are times when, as in the Northwestern Frontier states, maneuver battalions of leg infantry will be able to pin and destroy Al Qaeda personnel.

We may also have to deal with the Iranians over the next couple of years. The mullahs have chosen to cast their lot with AQ, and there will have to be consequences for that.

It's an expensive war. I'm not surprised that they are thinking of going the IRR, at least for "codger companies".

Be Seeing You,

Chris

101 posted on 05/24/2004 4:30:04 PM PDT by section9 (Major Motoko Kusanagi says, "John Kerry: all John F., no Kennedy..." Click on my pic!)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
Found this on AFPC web site:

Retired Recall Program
As of Aug 03, the Air Force has closed the enlisted retiree return to active duty program for the forseeable future. AFPC will no longer be accepting applications for this program. Thank you for your interest.

Awww, shucks!

102 posted on 05/24/2004 4:48:08 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
"Retired Reserve (all retired military personnel automatically pass into the Retired Reserve.) The Standby and Retired reserves provide over 100,000 well trained and experienced personnel. The number is vague because eligibility for active service depends on whether the reservists could pass the active duty physical exam."

Damn haven't lost all the weight I need to to qualify, six months more come on six months more.

103 posted on 05/24/2004 4:49:08 PM PDT by dts32041 ("Liberty is not America's gift to the world, it is God's gift to humanity" George W Bush 28 Jan 2003)
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To: olde north church
Prairie Dog Be Gone!
104 posted on 05/24/2004 4:57:40 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (I've lost turret power; I have my nods and my .50. Hooah. I will stay until relieved. White 2 out.)
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To: Alas Babylon!
There's only a 30 year Federal requirement for retirees? I figured I was on the hook until I turned 65. I was medically retired in 1991 after an unfortunate humvee rollover but I'm long since over that. I'm leaner and meaner than I was in 1991, but don't have the same endurance.

I'll go. I'll even bring my own sidearm. I wonder if I can have that promotion to O-6 that I had a line number for when I was medically retired. Probably not.

105 posted on 05/24/2004 5:37:39 PM PDT by CholeraJoe (In WWII, not a single plane from the 8th Air Force turned back due to enemy fire.)
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To: CholeraJoe
There's only a 30 year Federal requirement for retirees?

Sorry, Joe. That's 30 years for enlisteds. Don't know 'bout occifers....

106 posted on 05/24/2004 5:40:40 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: cavtrooper21
"I can't be called back, but I'll damn sure see if I can volunteer."

I tried right after 9-11 and for sometime thereafter. "Thanks but no thanks." I guess they're all flush on Armor branch majors. I just now told a buddy of mine who is the district director for a congresscritter to tell the military to go back and ask former IRR soldiers like me, to volunteer. Make it an easy, no hassle enlistment or direct commission. Offer a promotion and waivers on certain PT/physical limitations. Nothing too serious, but you'll get seasoned soldiers who require only minimal upgrading on skills primarily in the weapons dept and not tactics or leadership. You'll also get logistics experts who will need virtually zero trainup time, cause that stuff doesn't change too much. I told my wife two things, I wouldn't outright volunteer like I did before but if they come calling I won't turn them down with the scenario as I've just outlined.

107 posted on 05/24/2004 5:45:59 PM PDT by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic. (R.I.P. harpseal))
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To: CholeraJoe

Its a bench mark situation Joe, anybody in the Airforce is a gentleman compared to the Army.


108 posted on 05/24/2004 5:46:43 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (John Kerry, the mother of all flip floppers.)
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To: cavtrooper21
I can't be called back, but I'll damn sure see if I can volunteer. I can still drive a truck or work a desk.... or shoot, as long as I don't have to run.

EXACTLY how I feel. I can't run or carry a 100#'s for miles but I can still blow you away at several hundred yards, I'm right with my God, and I have so many aches and pains they really can't hurt me too much! Let's GO! ;-)

109 posted on 05/24/2004 5:54:03 PM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon (RIP U. S. Army Specialist Pat Tillman)
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To: U S Army EOD

The President (actually the SECAF) made me an Officer. It took an act of Congress to make me a gentleman. The bill failed 432-3. The Senate was divided 54-43, with 3 abstaining because I had slept with their daughters or wives.


110 posted on 05/24/2004 6:01:23 PM PDT by CholeraJoe (In WWII, not a single plane from the 8th Air Force turned back due to enemy fire.)
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To: RetiredArmy

What if you are the shift supervisor at a plant that is churning out armor panels for the Stryder and Humvees?


111 posted on 05/24/2004 6:16:18 PM PDT by Frohickey
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To: Frohickey

Stryder?


112 posted on 05/24/2004 6:20:35 PM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (I've lost turret power; I have my nods and my .50. Hooah. I will stay until relieved. White 2 out.)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4
"Saddle up."

Aye Aye Sir!

Secret Clearance? Yes

Explosive Ordinance Training? Yes

Critical MOS? Yes

Can you still shoot? Yes, and I will bring my own weapon!

Age? 65 going on 70

Rank Anything you have open. (At my age, one cannot be choosy) Can I still draw my social security?

Semper Fi

113 posted on 05/24/2004 6:20:59 PM PDT by An Old Man (USMC 1956 1960)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

Will get a telco # and post it here in AM. Everything of any importance was closed when I called tonight. You looking for 26000 Page Blvd?


114 posted on 05/24/2004 6:22:08 PM PDT by MindBender26
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

Will get a telco # and post it here in AM. Everything of any importance was closed when I called tonight. You looking for 26000 Page Blvd?


115 posted on 05/24/2004 6:22:21 PM PDT by MindBender26
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To: RetiredArmy

ditto - but i don't do the bike, smoke a pack a day, and where once existed a six pack, now resides a PFD.

I can still rock and roll with a '16, though... so just tell me where, when & how fast can u pass me the ammunition?

retired Coastie


116 posted on 05/24/2004 6:26:05 PM PDT by CGVet58 (God has granted us liberty, and we owe Him courage in return)
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To: cavtrooper21
I can do the same thing and I have touched one since 1971, I still prefer an M-60 and what to try an MK 19.
117 posted on 05/24/2004 6:32:24 PM PDT by dts32041 ("Liberty is not America's gift to the world, it is God's gift to humanity" George W Bush 28 Jan 2003)
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

Stryker... damn fingers.


118 posted on 05/24/2004 6:38:01 PM PDT by Frohickey
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To: RetiredArmy
I am 5 foot 10 and weight 155 pounds and cycle on my bike over 25 miles per day. I did 48 yesterday in 3 hours with 7 very intensive hill climbs.

I could have written that about myself (except I don't ride that much daily but I went 75 miles last Thursday).

As soon as those planes hit the towers, the first thing I thought was "re-call" and I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet. I re-tired three years ago after 20 yrs but....Maybe time to get off my butt and prove I deserve my freedom and deserve to live in this great country? Ok. Can't complain.

119 posted on 05/24/2004 6:42:44 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: Cannoneer No. 4

Holy crap - I better check my status - I'm awaiting retirement ...


120 posted on 05/24/2004 6:51:06 PM PDT by 11th_VA (Freedom is not free)
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