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To: nopardons
When Washington was president,the Atlantic Ocean was seen as a pretty good barrier,though not a perfect one.We fought the English,to get our independence,were helped by the French,though they were also viewed as our enemies,and the Hessians(Germans) fought on the side of the Brits,as did Irish.As a new nation,composed of colonists from all of those nations,it really was in our best interests to stay out of centuries old fights between European nations.

What a bunch of rationalizations, to get around the clear intent and explained logic of Washington's position:

Observe good faith and justice towards all nations; cultivate peace and harmony with all. Religion and morality enjoin this conduct, and can it be that good policy does not equally enjoin it? It will be worthy of a free, enlightened, and, at no distant period, a great nation, to give to mankind the magnanimous and too novel example of a people always guided by an exalted justice and benevolence. Who can doubt but, in the course of time and things, the fruits of such a plan would richly repay any temporary advantages which might be lost by a steady adherence to it; can it be that Providence has not connected the permanent felicity of a nation with its virtue? The experiment, at least, is recommended by every sentiment which ennobles human nature. Alas! is it rendered impossible by its vices?

In the execution of such a plan, nothing is more essential than that permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular nations and passionate attachments for others, should be excluded; and that in place of them, just and amicable feelings towards all should be cultivated. The nation which indulges towards another an habitual hatred, or an habitual fondness, is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interest. Antipathy in one nation against another disposes each more readily to offer insult and injury, to lay hold of slight causes of umbrage, and to be haughty and intractable when accidental or trifling occasions of dispute occur. Hence, frequent collisions, obstinate, envenomed, and bloody contests. The nation, prompted by ill will and resentment, sometimes impels to war the government, contrary to the best calculations of policy. The government sometimes participates in the national propensity, and adopts through passion what reason would reject; at other times, it makes the animosity of the nation subservient to projects of hostility, instigated by pride, ambition, and other sinister and pernicious motives. The peace often, sometimes perhaps the liberty of nations, has been the victim.

So likewise, a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils. Sympathy for the favorite nation, facilitating the illusion of an imaginary common interest in cases where no real common interest exists, and infusing into one the enmities of the other, betrays the former into a participation in the quarrels and wars of the latter, without adequate inducements or justifications. It leads also to concessions, to the favorite nation, of privileges denied to others, which is apt doubly to injure the nation making the concessions, by unnecessary parting with what ought to have been retained, and by exciting jealousy, ill will, and a disposition to retaliate in the parties from whom equal privileges are withheld; and it gives to ambitious, corrupted or deluded citizens who devote themselves to the favorite nation, facility to betray or sacrifice the interests of their own country, without odium, sometimes even with popularity; gilding with the appearances of a virtuous sense of obligation, a commendable deference for public opinion, or a laudable zeal for public good, the base or foolish compliances of ambition, corruption, or infatuation.

As avenues to foreign influence in innumerable ways, such attachments are particularly alarming to the truly enlightened and independent patriot. How many opportunities do they afford to tamper with domestic factions, to practice the arts of seduction, to mislead public opinion, to influence or awe the public councils! Such an attachment of a small or weak, towards a great and powerful nation, dooms the former to be the satellite of the latter.

Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence (I conjure you to beleive me fellow citizens) the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake; since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican government. But that jealousy, to be useful, must be impartial, else it becomes the instrument of the very influence to be avoided, instead of a defense against it. Excessive partiality for one foreign nation and excessive dislike for another, cause those whom they actuate to see danger only on one side, and serve to veil and even second the arts of influence on the other. Real patriots, who may resist the intrigues of the favorite, are liable to become suspected and odious; while its tools and dupes usurp the applause and confidence of the people, to surrender their interst.

The great rule of conduct for us, in regard to foreign nations, is, in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as posssible. So far as we have already formed engagements, let them be fulfilled with perfect good faith:--Here let us stop.

Washington offered wisdom for the ages. We do not have his like in high office today. That is unfortunate, but no reason to mislead as to his message. There is absolutely nothing dated about his understanding of human nature and the wiles of men and nations. Open your eyes and you will see evidence of everything that Washington addressed.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

422 posted on 05/26/2004 9:08:08 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan

And a bump for George Washington.


424 posted on 05/26/2004 10:20:14 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan

And another bump for George Washington.


425 posted on 05/26/2004 10:57:05 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan

And another bump for George Washington.


426 posted on 05/26/2004 1:48:40 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Ohioan

Washington would have been eschewed as an isolationist by these phony conservatives.

Don't ya know FDR was a better president than Washington?

The dogs-of-war never have been content with just maintaining and protecting our sovereignty...that's why our borders are wide open and our rights eroded into privileges to be dangled by the elite.


427 posted on 05/26/2004 1:52:49 PM PDT by 21st Century Man (POLITICS: THE NEW OPIATE OF THE MASSES)
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To: Ohioan

Great retort to those who scorn much of our FF wisdom. And no pardon yet for the lack of a reply?

How typical.


431 posted on 05/26/2004 8:07:32 PM PDT by tpaine ("The line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being." -- Solzhenitsyn)
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To: Ohioan

Great post and absolutely correct.

Too bad No-pardon-me is too busy on his daily dis-information campaign to find the time to even show up.


432 posted on 05/26/2004 8:21:04 PM PDT by Veracious Poet (Cash cows are sacred in America...GOT MILKED???)
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To: Ohioan

Moving stuff. Boy, I'll tell you what though, minds like those come around once every 5 to 10 thousand years. Compare that writing, those thoughts to any modern President's stuff, and the only thing you sense is absence.


437 posted on 05/26/2004 8:52:14 PM PDT by AlbionGirl ("E meglio lavorare con qui non ti paga, e no ha parlare con qui non ti capisce!")
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