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The latest lies about the War on Terror
1 posted on 05/25/2004 1:20:51 PM PDT by RandyAndy
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To: RandyAndy

In exactly seven minutes from now, every liberal in the country will believe this more fervently than they believe the sun will rise tomorrow.


2 posted on 05/25/2004 1:29:41 PM PDT by T'wit (Liberal to child: you'll sink into depravity eventually, so do it at home, now, where it's hygienic)
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To: RandyAndy
It doesn't matter!!

What really matters is what the Iranian people know....and that is this.

Since the 13 months after the fall of Saddam's Baathist regime, the Iraqi people have more political freedom, economic opportunity and hope for the future than the Iranians have 25 years after the fall of the Shah.

Once this sinks in aropund the middle east, President Bush will look more the hero in the broad sweep of history.

3 posted on 05/25/2004 1:33:15 PM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (I don't believe anything a Democrat says. Bill Clinton set the standard!)
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To: RandyAndy

The fever swamps are bubbling again.


5 posted on 05/25/2004 1:35:12 PM PDT by Mr.Atos
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To: RandyAndy

Very clever. Now if we could goad China into invading Canada that would... oh... you mean Iran might not LIKE having U.S. infantry and armor on the ground, well-supplied, right next door?


6 posted on 05/25/2004 1:36:18 PM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending)
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To: RandyAndy

I don't disbelieve the fact that chalabi could be an iranian agent.

Muslims have such strong loyalties to islam that they invariably are double agents.

If a muslim isn't working for iran, he could be working for Pakistan or saudi arabia, the two al qaeda sponsors and countries with direct ties to 911.

However the fact of the matter is that we should do what's good for us, regardless of the facts about chalabi.

we didn't have conclusive evidence to prove that Iraq didn't have WMD's. As you can see al qaeda's zarqawi seems pretty busy in iraq these days.

There is a very strong possibility that Saddam could have had some WMD's, as he had been fooling inspectors for years. Considering that fact that zarqaqi is in iraq, it is very likely that these ould fall into al qaeda's hands.

In the absence of evidence to the contrary and against the backdrop of 911, we had no choice but to move against iraq.

We just couldn't sit, pray and hope that saddam didn't have WMD's and that he didn't have al qaeda ties.


7 posted on 05/25/2004 1:44:10 PM PDT by jerrydavenport
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To: RandyAndy
If this is true, then we owe the Iranian Mullahs a debt of gratitude for getting us off our asses and ridding the world of this scourge.

We can pay them back by using their trickery as a pretext for ridding the world of THEM.

FREE IRAN!

8 posted on 05/25/2004 1:48:46 PM PDT by Physicist
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To: RandyAndy

No duping required ....

N. Korea nuke material -> Libya
Pakistan nuke centrifuges -> Libya
Iraqi money and scientists -> Libya

Libya builds the hollowed out mountain nuke facility.

Presto, Islao-facists nuclear bomb.

We have most of the pieces under control.

It's all hooked together. Stay tuned.


9 posted on 05/25/2004 1:51:17 PM PDT by snooker (John Flipping Kerry, the enemy's choice in Vietnam, the enemy's choice in Iraq.)
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To: RandyAndy

Anyone who thinks the Iranian ayatollahs would work to establish the precedent of U.S. military pre-emption in the Middle East is clearly on crack.


10 posted on 05/25/2004 1:53:36 PM PDT by Mr. Bird (Ain't the beer cold!)
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To: RandyAndy

Doesn't this all fly in the face of Clarke and Woodward's statements about all this? Weren't Bush and Company going to war reagardless? Now it's all the Iranians and Chalabi? When are the moonbats going to settle on one story?


13 posted on 05/25/2004 2:07:21 PM PDT by jayef
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To: RandyAndy

I have no doubt that Iranian and Iraqi intelligence operatives were passing info of varying degrees of value on to the US. As were any Kuwaiti, Saudi, Jordanian, Turkish, Armenian, Israeli, French, German, Russian, Ukrainian, Belgian, British, and American operatives in the region. Let's not forget Pakistani, Chinese, Bahraini, Oman, UAE intelligence who were also sifting through this mountain of BS taller than the original tower of Babyl.

Iraqi scientists and military and intelligence and Secret police chiefs regularly lied to the Hussein family to keep their heads on their necks, and their must be millions of reams of "fancied up" bureaucracy paperwork to back up their pie in the sky reports to the Hussein clan. If the US was collecting leaked documents, than it's safe to assume Iran was too. Which means Iranians could create even wilder claims in forged, faked papers, and pass them on to the Western intel operatives.

Like posted, Iran wanted to keep Saddam supressed by the UN, weakening the regime over decades so when Saddam fell, Iran would increase it's territory be leveraging the sphere of influence. The US military has speed up the timetable, neutralized the possibility that Iraq would slowly fall in to complete disrepair and a collapse of government after Saddam's eventual death. The US will be Iraq's pillar of stability, not Iran. Iran miscalculated, based on Bush the Elder's decision to let Saddam live the first time, and Clinton's weak arsed oblivious foreign policy decisions.

All old news, Chalabi was known to be a conduit for many different organizations.


18 posted on 05/25/2004 2:28:15 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: RandyAndy

Hey, trying to understand from the outside who is sticking it to who in all the give and take in the intelligence community, is like trying decipher some meaning behind what goes on in a Frisco bath house.


19 posted on 05/25/2004 2:40:44 PM PDT by kimoajax
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To: RandyAndy
Is anybody tracking this story closely? If so, I have a question:

Has there been ANY OFFICIAL STATEMENT by the United States of America on this story. What I see is mostly and maybe exclusively unnamed sources from the "Intelligence Community". That is not worth much but it is being given a lot of play.

I smell a rat.

23 posted on 05/25/2004 3:37:45 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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