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Leftist from Canada gets chewed out by Metal band leader.(Hysterical read, some profane language)
braveworlds via Andrew Sullivan ^ | 05/25/04 | David Perri

Posted on 5/26/2004, 3:45:10 AM by Pikamax

HARD ROCK VS. CHOMSKY: Here's a delightful interview with rock star, John Schaffer, of the heavy metal group, Iced Earth, by a young Chomsky-reading Canadian leftist for the online magazine, Brave Words and Brass Knuckles. Money quote: BW&BK: "This next question is controversial so I'm letting you know before we proceed. Some political analysts have articulated the view that what happened on September 11 was justified due to America's presence in the Middle East, specifically Saudi Arabia. Some political analysts view it as retaliation for what the US has done in the Middle East in the past. As a Canadian, I'm interested in hearing what you have to say about this view that's been put forth by analysts."

JS: "No, it wasn't justified. Not at all. And anybody who says so needs to have their fuckin' head examined."

BW&BK: "Do you think 9/11 will be viewed as the first event in the US empire's decline and fall?"

JS: "No. This is not an empire, first of all. If the United States was an empire, your country would be our 51st state."

BW&BK: "I understand." No he doesn't understand. Read the whole thing. Parts of it are marvelous.

(Excerpt) Read more at andrewsullivan.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antiamericanism; canada; chomsky; chomskyite; marxism; napalminthemorning; pro911attacks; proterrorist; reddupe; sadammite; stalinsusefulidiot; usefulidiot; wot
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full interview here

http://www.bravewords.com/news.html?id=14029

1 posted on 5/26/2004, 3:45:11 AM by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax

I remember when the left was whining about some preachers saying it was God's punishment on America, and then the left turns around and says it is punishment on America and that we earned it. Go figure.


2 posted on 5/26/2004, 3:51:33 AM by chance33_98 (Shall a living man complain? Oh how much fewer are my sufferings than my sins;)
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To: Pikamax

Thanks for the link, that was awesome! I passed it on to fellow family and friends who are fans :)


3 posted on 5/26/2004, 3:53:02 AM by Trillian
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To: Pikamax
JS: "No. This is not an empire, first of all. If the United States was an empire, your country would be our 51st state."

He shoots! He scorrrrrrrrres!

4 posted on 5/26/2004, 3:57:35 AM by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: Pikamax

I read about a fourth of the article. That 22 yr old journalist is an exception to the rule I hope. He's been totally brainwashed into marxism. No wonder Canadas going to pot.


5 posted on 5/26/2004, 3:59:35 AM by Rennes Templar
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To: Pikamax

Follow that link!

This is great stuff.

BW&BK: "Well, sometimes Americans believe they're very free, when they're sometimes not. There are a lot of authors, especially a guy like Noam Chomsky, who believes a lot of consent in the US is manufactured by politicians and corporations --"



JS: "Talk about one of the fuckin' ultra leftist spin doctors of the world, Noam Chomsky. You buy into that crap?"



BW&BK: "Well, I read a lot of his stuff."



JS: "But do you believe it all?"



BW&BK: "I have a degree in political science, so I believe some of it."



JS: "Hmm. Yeah. Well. And how old are you?"



BW&BK: "I'm 22."



JS: "22 years old? That's a lot of wisdom there!


6 posted on 5/26/2004, 3:59:53 AM by Redcoat LI (You Can Trust Me , I'm Not Like The Others.....)
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To: Rennes Templar

But going to pot in what sense?


7 posted on 5/26/2004, 4:01:24 AM by Gid_29
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To: chance33_98; Pikamax; Trillian
I think someone needs to have an introduction into American patriotism, courtesy of The Dropkick Murphys!

Erin Go Bragh!

P.S. Where have all the Hippy Killers gone?

8 posted on 5/26/2004, 4:01:30 AM by The Scourge of Yazid ("Why don't we just ask Gerard? Gerard knows everything.")
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To: Pikamax
OK, it must be me, but the 2 links you gave went to something (hard to read) other than the interview you intro'd.

Give a viable link, or at least tell us we're going on a wild goose chase.

9 posted on 5/26/2004, 4:02:29 AM by Balding_Eagle (Liberalism is a mental disorder)
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To: Pikamax

That was worth the read.
LoL. Great.


10 posted on 5/26/2004, 4:04:10 AM by nuconvert ("America will never be intimidated by thugs and assassins." ( Azadi baraye Iran)
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To: Pikamax
Great interview! I like this response to the interviewer from Canada:

BW&BK: "Do you think 9/11 will be viewed as the first event in the US empire's decline and fall?"

JS: "No. This is not an empire, first of all. If the United States was an empire, your country would be our 51st state."

BWAHAHA!

11 posted on 5/26/2004, 4:05:06 AM by Reagan is King (The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

whoops, sorry


Andrew Sullivan link was wrong

http://www.andrewsullivan.com/index.php?dish_inc=archives/2004_05_23_dish_archive.html#108553759021443775



The Bravewords interview link is correct though.

http://www.bravewords.com/news.html?id=14029


12 posted on 5/26/2004, 4:05:44 AM by Pikamax
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To: ItsonlikeDonkeyKong
P.S. Where have all the Hippy Killers gone?

An old hippie killer never dies, he just leaves for awhile to go to the store to buy more ammo.

13 posted on 5/26/2004, 4:05:51 AM by chance33_98 (Shall a living man complain? Oh how much fewer are my sufferings than my sins;)
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To: Pikamax

It's nice to have a cultural figure (read: rock star) have a broad, working knowledge about history and politics. Regardless of his opinions, which concur for about 99% of the interview (chance says that there has to be something I will disagree with), it is a big shift from the suddenly political activists which our society spews out constantly.


14 posted on 5/26/2004, 4:06:02 AM by Gid_29
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To: ItsonlikeDonkeyKong

Stand Up and Fight,And I'll Stand Up With You!

The Gauntlet, best song ever made, even better live.


15 posted on 5/26/2004, 4:06:11 AM by Redcoat LI (You Can Trust Me , I'm Not Like The Others.....)
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To: Balding_Eagle
Click here: interview. It's a great read.
16 posted on 5/26/2004, 4:06:39 AM by xJones
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To: Pikamax

bTtT


17 posted on 5/26/2004, 4:09:03 AM by paulsy
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To: Pikamax
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Iced Earth band leader Jon Schaffer: "The only parallels I see between those two [between the US and the Roman Empire] are that if we are not careful we will end up like the Roman Empire and it will be because of a lack of morals. This politically correct stuff in our country is like a cancer. The only thing that can destroy our country is us. Not some fuckin' terrorist piece of shit who is nothing but a complete coward that attacks civilians and then goes and runs and hides in a cave. That kinda shit... they're so far over the edge and brainwashed freaks. Those people can't hurt us. I don't care if we get attacked another twenty times. You can bring on another ten 9/11s. All it's going to do is make us stronger. I love the ideals the US stands for. But I'm not the kind of person who says we're the best country in the world and that we should push everybody around. I think some people misunderstand that. I respect other countries. I go to other countries all the time and I never talk down to the people in those countries when I'm a guest. I don't try to like shove our way of life down other people's throats. And that's not what this record is. If you understood how many people in our country and how many young kids have no fuckin' clue about history and why they have the things they have, it's frustrating to me as someone who has studied this stuff and cares deeply about it. It's kind of a big deal. I don't think anybody has all the answers for all the world's problems. But I believe if you look at the tax burden the American people have for helping so many people around the world, constantly. It's huge. People can't deny that, but it's easy to forget when people want to turn their backs on us."

Snip

Welcome to Free Republic Mr. Schaffer.

18 posted on 5/26/2004, 4:11:45 AM by VRW Conspirator (Dear Hillary Clinton, America is not ready for a bisexual president.)
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To: Pikamax

Thanks, too hard to read though, so I take your word that it's good.


19 posted on 5/26/2004, 4:11:55 AM by Balding_Eagle (Liberalism is a mental disorder)
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To: Pikamax

I'm actually going to buy one of their CDs. I haven't bought a CD in a couple years since there's not much worth listening to anymore, but that guy has definately earned a royalty from my purchase. LOL, I don't even like that style of music anymore.


20 posted on 5/26/2004, 4:11:57 AM by sc2_ct
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