On or off Cuba Ping.
Posted on 05/28/2004 11:23:46 AM PDT by freedom44
GUADALAJARA, Mexico (Reuters) - Photographs and video of Iraqi prisoners abused by U.S. troops are the most shocking images seen since the days of Hitler, the Cuban government said on Friday. "Since the dark days of Hitler ... humanity has not observed images of such emotional impact," said a government statement issued at a summit of European and Latin American leaders.
"Millions and millions of people have been horrified by the brutal sadism" reflected by photos and video from the Abu Ghraib prison near Baghdad.
The historical parallel drawn by Cuba came in a lengthy document which complained bitterly about the absence of direct criticism of the United States in the final declaration of the summit in Mexico.
It is time to nuke Cuba.
Cuba makes judgements on human rights? That's a laugh. Since when is Cuba the arbiter on how to treat people?
It is Castro who is more like Hitler. while in the university, 'Mein Kampf" was practically an appengage on him.
On or off Cuba Ping.
AlGore, Kerry or Castro? All Hate America & Love Socialism
Dan Rather happily receiving directions from his idol Castro
on how to continue and optimize Rather's attack on America.
Another UN backed, dissident-murdering dictator heard from.
If we could see pictures of how THEIR prisons are run,I'm sure they could give us a run for the money. It's easy to be (hypocritically) judgemental when THEIR abuses of their own citizens are lied about as non-exisitent. They have no freedom of the press to illuminate their misdeeds. Makes it easy to present a shallow picture of perfection,huh?
Yep, Castro lifted so much of his schtick from Hitler, he should be paying royalties. Lucky for him that there's nobody around to sue on Der Fuhrer's behalf.
Ah, at last a totally objective assessment. And who should know better how to treat political prisoners than the whacked out over the top totalitarian Communist government of Cuba.
If this weren't so blatantly communist propaganda it would almost be funny coming for Castro's Cuba! He must have gotten Hillary's memo.
Hmmm. Let's see. I found these events and images of them so disturbing that comparisons to some hoods and nude shots in a prison in Iraq would be laughable, except the Blame America first crowd has sold the comparison as reasonable to my countrymen:
(a) Cambodia's killing fields;
(b) people jumping out of the World Trade Center towers;
(c) Saddam's torture videos;
(d) images of the graves in the Balkans;
(e) the walking sticks known as North Koreans;
(f) the walking sticks known as american POWs in most every conflict since, and including, WWII;
(g) compounds being torched in Waco;
(h) any number of events prior to the advancement of civil rights in the 60s;
(i) the disfigured dead AND ALIVE in Sudan (ok, maybe you can insert any African country here, but seeing images of people who were tortured, bound and permanently handicapped for not renouncing Jesus is something I'll never get over);
(j) oh yeah, how about Nicholas Berg. I would say that watching a screaming man have his head cut off is a little more disturbing to any honest human. Now, if you're an animal . . . .
Obviously the list could go on for pages or books, but I'll stop there. Just more evidence that the Cuban government and the Americans who support it are morons with no sense of reality.
I'll have a mojito with that Bolivar Belicoso
cheers...
And you're next, Fidel!!
Communists - the greatest butchers in human history - adhere to the Hegelian idea that cultural values and norms are subject to dialectic, that Bourgeois values are to be negated and eventually overthrown.
The most effective means of negating Western values is by making them absolute and thus meaningless. They generally do this by expanding the idea of rights, while simultaneously narrowing the definition of what rights really are. That is why we find Leftists of all stripes promoting the rhetoric of "rights." That is why, generally speaking, they do not talk of negative rights (rights granted by Nature or Nature's God); they talk of postive rights, so-called civil rights that are "granted" by the State.
Leftists play the game of Historical Dialectic.
Your post is one of the most accurate assesments of Cuba.
Cuba is a paradise, was a paradise prior to Castro and will be again within 6 years.
A series of shocking personal testimonies is now shedding light on Camp 22 - one of the country's most horrific secrets
Antony Barnett
Sunday February 1, 2004
The Observer
In the remote north-eastern corner of North Korea, close to the border of Russia and China, is Haengyong. Hidden away in the mountains, this remote town is home to Camp 22 - North Korea's largest concentration camp, where thousands of men, women and children accused of political crimes are held.
Now, it is claimed, it is also where thousands die each year and where prison guards stamp on the necks of babies born to prisoners to kill them.
Over the past year harrowing first-hand testimonies from North Korean defectors have detailed execution and torture, and now chilling evidence has emerged that the walls of Camp 22 hide an even more evil secret: gas chambers where horrific chemical experiments are conducted on human beings.
Witnesses have described watching entire families being put in glass chambers and gassed. They are left to an agonising death while scientists take notes. The allegations offer the most shocking glimpse so far of Kim Jong-il's North Korean regime.
Kwon Hyuk, who has changed his name, was the former military attaché at the North Korean Embassy in Beijing. He was also the chief of management at Camp 22. In the BBC's This World documentary, to be broadcast tonight, Hyuk claims he now wants the world to know what is happening.
'I witnessed a whole family being tested on suffocating gas and dying in the gas chamber,' he said. 'The parents, son and and a daughter. The parents were vomiting and dying, but till the very last moment they tried to save kids by doing mouth-to-mouth breathing.'
Hyuk has drawn detailed diagrams of the gas chamber he saw. He said: 'The glass chamber is sealed airtight. It is 3.5 metres wide, 3m long and 2.2m high_ [There] is the injection tube going through the unit. Normally, a family sticks together and individual prisoners stand separately around the corners. Scientists observe the entire process from above, through the glass.'
He explains how he had believed this treatment was justified. 'At the time I felt that they thoroughly deserved such a death. Because all of us were led to believe that all the bad things that were happening to North Korea were their fault; that we were poor, divided and not making progress as a country.
'It would be a total lie for me to say I feel sympathetic about the children dying such a painful death. Under the society and the regime I was in at the time, I only felt that they were the enemies. So I felt no sympathy or pity for them at all.'
His testimony is backed up by Soon Ok-lee, who was imprisoned for seven years. 'An officer ordered me to select 50 healthy female prisoners,' she said. 'One of the guards handed me a basket full of soaked cabbage, told me not to eat it but to give it to the 50 women. I gave them out and heard a scream from those who had eaten them. They were all screaming and vomiting blood. All who ate the cabbage leaves started violently vomiting blood and screaming with pain. It was hell. In less than 20 minutes they were quite dead.'
Defectors have smuggled out documents that appear to reveal how methodical the chemical experiments were. One stamped 'top secret' and 'transfer letter' is dated February 2002. The name of the victim was Lin Hun-hwa. He was 39. The text reads: 'The above person is transferred from ... camp number 22 for the purpose of human experimentation of liquid gas for chemical weapons.'
Kim Sang-hun, a North Korean human rights worker, says the document is genuine. He said: 'It carries a North Korean format, the quality of paper is North Korean and it has an official stamp of agencies involved with this human experimentation. A stamp they cannot deny. And it carries names of the victim and where and why and how these people were experimented [on].'
The number of prisoners held in the North Korean gulag is not known: one estimate is 200,000, held in 12 or more centres. Camp 22 is thought to hold 50,000.
Most are imprisoned because their relatives are believed to be critical of the regime. Many are Christians, a religion believed by Kim Jong-il to be one of the greatest threats to his power. According to the dictator, not only is a suspected dissident arrested but also three generations of his family are imprisoned, to root out the bad blood and seed of dissent.
With North Korea trying to win concessions in return for axing its nuclear programme, campaigners want human rights to be a part of any deal. Richard Spring, Tory foreign affairs spokesman, is pushing for a House of Commons debate on human rights in North Korea.
'The situation is absolutely horrific,' Spring said. 'It is totally unacceptable by any norms of civilised society. It makes it even more urgent to convince the North Koreans that procuring weapons of mass destruction must end, not only for the security of the region but for the good of their own population.'
Mervyn Thomas, chief executive of Christian Solidarity Worldwide, said: 'For too long the horrendous suffering of the people of North Korea, especially those imprisoned in unspeakably barbaric prison camps, has been met with silence ... It is imperative that the international community does not continue to turn a blind eye to these atrocities which should weigh heavily on the world's conscience.'
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