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1 posted on 05/28/2004 1:19:02 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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2 posted on 05/28/2004 1:19:22 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi Mac ... Become a FR Monthly Donor ... Kerry thread archive @ /~normsrevenge)
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Time to warm up the Referendum Wagon.


4 posted on 05/28/2004 1:22:09 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket (Fabrizio Quattrocchi: "Adesso vi faccio vedere come muore un italiano")
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There must be something about the air in Sacramento that makes you tonedeaf to the citizenry. If those idiots pass another bill like that, we're going to referend that dude faster than they can blink. And Schwarzenegger is going to see his popularity take a sharp drop. I'm just wondering if they're actually stupid enough to try this before the November elections.


5 posted on 05/28/2004 1:26:08 PM PDT by John Jorsett
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Any such law will be suspended by a voter initiative, and overturned in the very next election. Arnold is making a big mistake pandering to the Aztlan traitors.


6 posted on 05/28/2004 1:27:09 PM PDT by Defiant (Moore-On: That rush of excitement felt by a liberal when America is defeated.)
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There was a petition circulating during late 2003 and early 2004 that would of repealed the original illegal dirver license bill. It was gaining a lot of momentum until the law was repealed by the State house and the petition was stopped. I guessed we were suckered punch. I hope another petition is started that will repeal this upcoming law and insert a provision in to the state constitution preventing any such laws from being passed in the future.


11 posted on 05/28/2004 1:32:50 PM PDT by mkj6080
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So much for Terminator 4 making money ... this guy is shooting himself in the foot faster than a raghead with an auto AK-47 pointed at his toes.


12 posted on 05/28/2004 1:32:57 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Resolve to perform what you must; perform without fail that what you resolve.)
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If Arnold signs a bill allowing illegals to get a drivers license, Arnold's high polling numbers are going to tank in a hurry.
13 posted on 05/28/2004 1:42:20 PM PDT by Uncle Hal
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No pact yet on license bill

http://www.sacbee.com/content/politics/ca/story/9453448p-10377506c.html

Democrats, who control the Legislature, say they will send the legislation to the governor, even if the two sides cannot reach agreement and he vetoes it.


14 posted on 05/28/2004 1:48:54 PM PDT by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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Okay, then I'll renew my comment that granting illegals the right to US documents, whether a driver's license or any other, reduces the difference between a US Citizen and the citizens of another nation.

This is wrong and Schwarzenegger is just a big an idiot for supporting it, as any yahoo democrat who would gladly do the same thing.

The message to the governor should be loud and clear. No damn way!

BTW, while we're on the subject, we have a president which I'll probably vote for who is deralect in his duty on this topic.

Bush, get of your ass and do something about this terrorist threat, illegal immigration!


15 posted on 05/28/2004 2:00:42 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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I promised I wouldn't say "I told you so," so I won't. (not you personally, Norm)


16 posted on 05/28/2004 2:02:23 PM PDT by GSWarrior (Dead taglines. I see dead taglines...)
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To: NormsRevenge; So Cal Rocket; John Jorsett; Defiant; hedgetrimmer; mkj6080
Just a reminder regarding the referendum response to possible passage of this legislation. If it is passed under urgency provisions, under the guise of national security by way of background checks, it becomes law as soon as it is signed by the governor.

Referendum would not be an option in that case. Last time around, as non-urgency legislation, a period of months intervened between Gray Davis signing the bill and the legislation becoming law. So it was possible to stop it from taking effect.

In the event this came to pass, thousands of licenses could be granted before the law was overthrown and the licenses invalidated. Imagine the momentum this could give to similar movements in other states.

Ron Prince has said he will organize another run at getting an initiative on the ballot to deny illegals taxpayer funded services, including driver licensing. The last effort foundered as an on line only enterprise which was launched hurriedly and without sufficient funds to pay signature gatherers.

For the next try Prince will concentrate on fund raising which will just about guarantee a place on the ballot but it will be a 2006 ballot.

We can take some small consolation in all of these possibilities by imaging how long it will take the Department of Motor Vehicles to get up to speed. That's just the beginning, background checks of any kind will take time. Imagine the Mexican bureaucracy in motion. It will be costly as well. Then there's the rumors that will circulate regarding the licensing being a sham to get illegals' vital information so they can be rounded up and shipped out.

Interesting times in a country that is supposed to be founded on the rule of law. Citizens must bend over backward to fulfill the requirements of the law while those who flout the law need only show up.

23 posted on 05/28/2004 8:00:54 PM PDT by concentric circles
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