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The Ivory Tower of Babel(Confessions of a Conservative College Professor)
Frontpage Magazine ^ | 05/28/04 | Jamie Glazov

Posted on 05/29/2004 7:07:52 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Oh, I just realized! In #16, I forgot to address Floyd, who was the intended recipient.

Floyd, #16 is for you.


21 posted on 05/29/2004 8:09:10 AM PDT by proud American in Canada
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To: Floyd R Turbo

Okay, something weird is going on. I know I put Floyd R Turbo on #16 but it disappeared. And I know I put Floyd R Turbo on #21 but it disappeared.

I am going to test this by addressing it to Floyd R Turbo, and if there is no recipient...?

if FRT was banned/suspended, wouldn't it say that? Or does it just omit banned/suspended people when you post?

So, I'm going to hit post and we'll see what happens!


22 posted on 05/29/2004 8:11:34 AM PDT by proud American in Canada
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To: proud American in Canada

and it worked.

What's going on??? LOL.


23 posted on 05/29/2004 8:12:18 AM PDT by proud American in Canada
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

I always wonder if God's first step in confusing the languages was to tinker with the sense in which the common language was interpreted and under-stood...in other words arguements over what IS IS?!

The Bible doesn't say how long the process took before people were thoroughly confused with each other, but given our media's penchant for changing the perceived meaning of language...we have come to a point where even speaking English to each other does not guarantee that we can understand each other.

As people scattered from the Tower of Babel due to disagreements with interpretations and cultures...the languages themselves changed over time.(With God's direct intervention as well).


24 posted on 05/29/2004 8:18:25 AM PDT by mdmathis6 (The Democrats must be defeated in 2004)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Should we bring up the fact that the bible wasn't written in English in the first place? Do we have a number on the average number of translations made to date to get it to its current state?

It does not say "exactly" anything in modern English. The whole discussion of the use of quotes is a bit much.

Diva's Husband


25 posted on 05/29/2004 8:20:39 AM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (It's not Bush's fault... it's the media's fault!)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross

Yes, you're right. LOL!


26 posted on 05/29/2004 8:24:40 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: proud American in Canada
I'm a retired 12th grade English teacher now, but during my teaching days, I also encountered students (too many imo) who were woefully ignorant of the simplest things. For instance, in teaching Milton's sonnet referring to the "talents", I had to explain Jesus' parable.

Another very real problem was getting them to understand that there is a very real difference between an unfounded opinion and a fact. Even when I explained that opinion based on fact was more viable than an unfounded one, some were not convinced....asserted they had a right to their own opinion!

27 posted on 05/29/2004 8:30:46 AM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

His columns are regularly featured in townhall.com. I get their email daily with notices about featured conservative authors. Check it out.


28 posted on 05/29/2004 8:32:11 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: PLK
Ditto on all that.

Most of my teachers are rather conservative, actually, but many times I've had to argue my way out of racism accusations or the vaunted war-for-oil argument, nearly daily.

It's funny, though, because every time the reasoning gets worse. They're not weakening my conservative beliefs, on the contrary, by showing what idiots they are, they are strengthening them! Ah, I can't wait for college.

For those in the college ranks, check out this here website: www.studentsforacademicfreedom.org. Very good stuff.

BTW, is there an active FR or Protest Warrior chapter at the University of Florida? Just out of curiosity...

29 posted on 05/29/2004 8:35:03 AM PDT by K1avg (What would Savage do?)
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To: proud American in Canada

The tribe of Judah was one of twelve tribes of Israel and all were of the family of Abraham. Not only Jews are included in that blessing and cursing, or so it seems to me.


30 posted on 05/29/2004 8:48:13 AM PDT by Paulus Invictus (4)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross; The Ghost of FReepers Past
Here ya go!

29 kai douleusatwsan soi eqnh kai proskunhsousin soi arcontes kai ginou kurios tou adelfou sou kai proskunhsousin soi oi uioi tou patros sou o katarwmenos se epikataratos o de eulogwn se euloghmenos

That's from the Septuagint, 'cause I don't read Hebrew! It reads, more or less, "And let nations (eqnos - ethnic groups!) be in slavery (doulos) to you, and rulers prostrate themselves before you, and be lord (kurios - as in "kyrie eleison") over your brother, and the sons of your father shall prostrate themselves before (same word) you; accursed is he that curses you, (katerew - literally to denounce, accuse, speak out against)and blessed is he that blesses (eulogwn literally, good-speaking, i.e. to bless or praise) you."

Here's Young's Literal Translation, which is taken from the Hebrew, but predates the Dead Sea Scrolls because it was first made in 1898:

29 peoples serve thee, and nations bow themselves to thee, be thou mighty over thy brethren, and the sons of thy mother bow themselves to thee; those who curse thee [are] cursed, and those who bless thee [are] blessed

31 posted on 05/29/2004 9:01:12 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of Venery (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Well there it is. LOL! Nice job.


32 posted on 05/29/2004 9:18:35 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

I never in my wildest dreams thought that I would be using my 2 years of Classical Greek to work my way through the Bible . . . and on the Internet at that! Of course when I was in college AlBore hadn't invented the Internet yet. My husband-to-be was at Georgia Tech, and they had a PDP-8 computer that you had to feed hundreds of punch cards into to run a simple program of just a few lines . . . . < eek >


33 posted on 05/29/2004 9:23:56 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of Venery (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: sauropod

read later


34 posted on 05/29/2004 9:40:58 AM PDT by sauropod (Paleo-cons make better lovers)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; narses
"The university is crawling with lunatics who believe that they can do whatever they want with impunity."

That is very true. American colleges are filled with Frankensteins, Cagliostros, Draculas, Svengalis, and Dr. Faustus and Marquis de Sade types. All sorts of totalitarian quacks, charlatans, sophists, and gnostic maniacs. The popularity of the insane ravings of Nietzsche are damning testimony to the sickness lurking in the halls and corridors of the temples of academe. It's a disgrace what gets passed off as "knowledge" and "learning" these days.

35 posted on 05/29/2004 9:50:36 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: AnAmericanMother

"...and they had a PDP-8 computer that you had to feed hundreds of punch cards into to run a simple program of just a few lines . . . . < eek >....."

Oh, those were the days!! And woe to those who did not number each punch card properly before feeding them into the card reader. It was almost 10 years before the first personal computers started appearing with DOS.


36 posted on 05/29/2004 10:30:47 AM PDT by pizzalady
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To: pizzalady
Instead of numbering the individual cards, my husband took a black marker and drew two diagonal lines, on one long and one short side of the stack. That kept them in order and oriented properly (although most punch cards had a single cutoff corner to keep them straight!)

"Oh, dear dead days beyond recall . . . "

37 posted on 05/29/2004 10:35:25 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of Venery (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
IIRC, Adams has said that he believes he'd not be able to gain tenure if he was
entering the process at this point.

While the academy is weakened with the inbreeding going on in faculty selection...
maybe there is the virtue that these folks are segregating themselves into
their own posh ghetto.
We just need to find ways to make it less posh.
38 posted on 05/29/2004 10:36:28 AM PDT by VOA
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To: proud American in Canada

I'm guessing that your previous tries had multiple recipients. Did you separate their names with semicolons?


39 posted on 05/29/2004 12:51:50 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (#1 Freeper Pickup Line: "You must be a Breaking News thread, 'cause I could bump you all night!")
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To: AnAmericanMother
Totally off topic, but weren't you the one saying that the yellow flies would tote off the G-8 protestors?

Right now I can't work in the yard - spent 20 min out there and have welts all over my legs. Cutter won't keep them off, and I'm not sure what will, if anything. Right now I'm hoping they will torment all liberal protesters as badly as they are tormenting me, except I don't want to put up with the @#$$#@s for 2 more weeks.....

40 posted on 05/29/2004 5:26:19 PM PDT by Amelia
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