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Girls at London Saudi school are treated 'as inferiors'
Telegraph ^ | May 30, 2004 | Emma Hartley and Julie Henry

Posted on 05/29/2004 5:46:31 PM PDT by sarcasm

A London school funded by the Saudi Arabian government is facing complaints from parents that it is teaching British children "fundamentalist" Islam while giving girls an inferior education.

The King Fahd Academy in Acton, west London, named after the current Saudi ruler, devotes up to 50 per cent of lessons to religious education and teaches almost all classes in Arabic, with boys and girls following different curricula.

Former teachers and parents have come forward to criticise the academy's religious teachings for instilling "hostility to the outsider". They also claim that there is discrimination against female pupils. The school was opened 19 years ago for the offspring of Saudi diplomats in London. Since then, many children of British Muslims have joined the school. In 2002, only 37 per cent of the 738 pupils were of Saudi origin.

Among those who currently attend the academy are the children of Abu Hamza, the cleric from Finsbury Park mosque who was arrested last week after the United States applied for his extradition on terrorism charges.

Originally the British and the Saudi curricula were taught side by side. Five years ago, however, the Saudi Arabian government ordered the school to phase out British lessons and to teach Saudi-style classes.

The school is segregated and younger boys and girls are now taught different courses, to comply with Saudi education policy, which states that a girl's education should "enable her to be a successful housewife, an exemplary wife and a good mother" or prepare her for work which is "suitable to her disposition as a woman".

Girls at the academy do barely any physical education and the only type of technology they will learn is "home technology".

Dr Mai Yamani, a research fellow at the Royal Institute of International Affairs, had two daughters at the school, but removed them when she became uncomfortable about the education they were receiving. "I moved my eldest daughter at the age of seven. Her new school said that, in their opinion, she had been 'totally untaught' to that point. They had to put her in a class with much younger children, which was terrible for her.

"The books they taught the girls from kept going on about idolatry and sin and how to avoid it. It was about the fires of hell, torture in the grave and how to make sure that your ways are not those of the infidel.

"The school is trying to make sure that the Saudis who go there abide by the system of state control in Saudi Arabia. The method is 'loyalty to the system and hostility to the outsider'.

"Three years ago I interviewed some of the pupils for a book and some of them were talking as if they didn't live in London at all."

Dr Yamani, the daughter of the former Saudi oil minister Sheikh Yamani, believes that girls at the school are given an inferior education to that provided to boys and that they are taught to "know their place".

She added: "They consider that the mind of a girl is less capable of absorbing education." Another parent who has two teenage girls at the school is unhappy with the direction the academy is taking.

"It used to be a wonderful school that taught the two traditions side by side. Now only one lesson in six is taken in English. The children would not have the standard to even read the paper by the time they reach A-level," he said.

"It has arrived at a situation where the school seems to be saying: 'This is the only correct version of Islam'. It's such a fundamentalist approach."

No information is given on the academy's website about the school curriculum. The school said it could not supply details in English about what children were taught.

A senior teacher at the school, who asked not to be named, admitted, however, that girls did not receive the full curriculum. "Girls will not have as much PE and they will be taught home technology, rather than any other type of technology.

"The Saudi-type teaching is more didactic, with a lot of rote learning and factual stuff. There is not much in the way of understanding and applied learning. At 18, pupils will probably be at the equivalent of GCSE level." He said that it was "very definitely true" that the Saudi education would not prepare pupils for life in Britain.

When asked if the school provided an inferior education to girls, he said: "It provides an inferior education to boys and girls." Dr Ali Alghamdi, the principal of the King Fahad Academy, defended the phasing out of the British curriculum. He claimed that because the school taught mostly Saudi children, the curriculum was appropriate.

"The school is mainly for the Saudi community and the children of Saudi diplomats working in London," he said. "We are no different to any foreign school in any foreign city." The school was visited by inspectors from the Government's Office for Standards in Education about four years ago, although a legal loophole means that reports for private schools produced before September 2003 are not published.

If inspectors had concerns about the school, they should have been passed to the Department for Education. Officials there said that they were not aware of any issues being raised following the inspection.

A spokesman said: "It is anticipated that King Fahad will next be inspected in 2006. Of course, if we are made aware of concerns about any independent school we would consider bringing forward an inspection."

In state schools, boys and girls must be taught the national curriculum. This does not apply in the independent sector, although private schools must maintain a "satisfactory standard" in the education provided and the spiritual, moral, social and cultural development of pupils. Any claim of discrimination would have to be brought under the Sex Discrimination Act.

The Act says that it is unlawful for a school or college to discriminate against a woman in admission and "in the way it affords her access to benefits, facilities and services". Complaints can be lodged with the Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission, which would then investigate.

Dr Nasim Butt, a former teacher at the academy and an Ofsted inspector, said that the school's curriculum was no longer appropriate for British children. "As a teacher and an inspector of faith schools, I am interested in personal development and producing individuals who reflect deeply, self-evaluate and make a contribution to society.

"A Saudi education is not going to create individuals who make that kind of contribution in a free society."

Pupils in Saudi Arabia are obliged to spend half of the school timetable studying a rigid interpretation of Islam. A recent review of the curriculum by the Saudi government concluded that almost a fifth of lesson plans contained tracts preaching anti-Western and anti-Semitic views. The Saudi education department is now considering a redraft of the whole curriculum.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: europeancivilwar; islam; jihadineurope; madrassas; muslimwomen; saudiarabia; terrortraining; ukmuslims

1 posted on 05/29/2004 5:46:32 PM PDT by sarcasm
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To: sarcasm

This is "True Islam" at it's finest.

The worst is yet to come, when Islam declares that the entire planet, including China and Russia, was originally the property of Mohammed.

Islam intends to take it all back, Kafirs.


2 posted on 05/29/2004 5:51:41 PM PDT by jolie560
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To: sarcasm

All I can think here is "Well, duh, what did you guys expect??"


3 posted on 05/29/2004 5:56:54 PM PDT by alancarp (When does it cease to be Freedom of the Press, and become outright sedition???)
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To: sarcasm
Girls at London Saudi school are treated 'as inferiors'

I'm sure some Islamic apologists will explain how these conditions are caused
by the evil machinations of Jews/Israel and the United States.

(I'd say "end sarcasm", but given some of the Islamic apologists I've heard
on talk radio...I would not be shocked to hear one make this sort of argument.)
4 posted on 05/29/2004 5:59:38 PM PDT by VOA
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To: sarcasm
A recent review of the curriculum by the Saudi government concluded that almost a fifth of lesson plans contained tracts preaching anti-Western and anti-Semitic views.

How much different is that from the curricula of most university humanities departments?

5 posted on 05/29/2004 6:00:57 PM PDT by Loyalist (Kasper for Pope: Because things won't get better until they can't get any worse!)
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To: jolie560

The more you learn about Islam and its practioners, the less respect you have for Islam and moslems.


6 posted on 05/29/2004 6:06:01 PM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: CatoRenasci

What non-muslim mope entered their kids into this propoganda dope-fest? Hello?


7 posted on 05/29/2004 6:24:32 PM PDT by Thebaddog (Who's that poodle?)
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To: CatoRenasci

Left to their own devices in some other universe where they couldn't blame their plight on Jews and the Great Satan, Muslims would self-destruct. This latest murderous incident in Saudi Arabia is a case of chickens coming home to roost, too. Makes you wonder how long before the dominoes fall and the Saudi princes run for the lives. And now the state dept. is telling 30,000 American oil workers/execs to leave. Hmm.


8 posted on 05/29/2004 6:30:57 PM PDT by hershey
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To: sarcasm

"Dr Mai Yamani, a research fellow at the Royal Institute of International Affairs, had two daughters at the school, but removed them when she became uncomfortable about the education they were receiving."

This seems a pretty simple solution to me. How can a parent complain about education in a private school they've volutarily placed their child in? Just take them out! It's not like it's some American public school and there is no choice available.

It does show how really depraved these people are. I'm really starting to think that only religious conversion can save them. Another thought I never had before in my life.


9 posted on 05/29/2004 6:47:06 PM PDT by jocon307 (The dems don't get it, the American people do.)
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To: sarcasm

Just imagine schools like this in the US funded with vouchers.


10 posted on 05/29/2004 6:47:35 PM PDT by valkyrieanne
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To: sarcasm

Welcome to Islam--the religion of evil! If islamics are dissatisfied, then why perpetrate such evil upon the rest of the world. Down with satanist Islam and it cultist followers!


11 posted on 05/29/2004 6:51:54 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: sarcasm

In view of what is happening in Saudi with terrorists, the Saudis had better reconsider ALL their schools.

In several documentaries lately, they have shown very small boys bumping their heads in Islamic prayers and studying only the Koran. This fanatic Islamic teaching has to be brought to a halt.

In the news (or what passes for news) the talking heads have lately been posing the question of whether or not our WOT and War in Afg. and Iraq have caused more terrorists and done more harm than good. Good grief--the very idea that we should sit still and make nice is too preposterous. The Islamists are programming more Jihadists every day --have been, are, and will be--no matter what we do. At least we have stopped some of them. Their troops may keep coming, but we had better do away with their leaders as fast as possible.

vaudine


12 posted on 05/29/2004 6:59:45 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: CatoRenasci
"Western Culture" has been VIRTUALLY ABANDONED by our "Vaunted Western Academics."

It has become "Unfashionable" to Teach our "Collegiate-Level Citizens" the Origins of the Civilizations which Resulted in our Current Level of Civilization.

The SH+T-for-Brains who are NOW TEACHING our Children either Never Knew--or, Conveniently, Forgot--the Long--Hard-Fought, Hard Won History of our Civilization.

"America" Didn't SPRING--"De Novo"--from an accidental colonial culture on the North American Continent.

Despite the UTTER IGNORANCE of our Current "Crop" of "Teachers;" America is the Product of the "Thoughts of" an extraordinary Group of Special People!

The Current Crop of "Teachers" in our schools are NOT WORTH a FRACTION of their Forebears. To Ignore--or to Denigrate--the Unprecedented Political acheivements of the Courageous Individuals who created "America," is a Moral Abomination.

For our American Teachers to Forget WHY America exists, is a "Lapse" of either MONUMENTAL STUPIDITY, or UNPRECEDENTED EVIL.

America is the BEST Culture that Humanity has EVER Evolved.

For ANY "Academic Group" to argue Otherwise, They would need to present an Elaborate "Proof!"

To Date, NO ONE has shown that there exists ANY Culture "Freer" than "America!"

SADLY, (probably BECAUSE OF our "Free Speech,") "Academia" has bacome "Bent On" Destroying the VERY Culture which allows it to exist!!

If we CANNOT, Somehow, persuade "Academia" to TELL THE TRUTH, our Next Generation will be ENSLAVED by "Flim-Flam Artists" like the Nazi's, etc, who attempted to enslave our Parents.

Doc

13 posted on 05/29/2004 7:12:20 PM PDT by Doc On The Bay
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To: VOA
Yes, Islam is a "religion of peace," but the fact is clear: Saudi Arabia is training totalitarian terrorists in London. This is very dangerous to the British, who should send everyone ever associated with this so-called school to a naval brig. Then sort 'em out. Get MI5 or whatever the British anti-terrorist agency is on this school now.
14 posted on 05/29/2004 7:14:01 PM PDT by dufekin (John F. Kerry. Irrational, improvident, backward, seditious.)
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To: sarcasm

>> Girls at the academy do barely any physical education <<

Like many other American girls, I spent most of my high school years doing everything I could to avoid Gym.

IMO this is nothing more than the Ladies' Auxilliary to Socialsim (also known as Feminism) trying to turn a serious subject (Terrorism, War) into another girl's issue.

Hasn't Feminism done enough damage already? Nothing to see here...move on...


15 posted on 05/29/2004 8:06:34 PM PDT by An American In Dairyland (Have you forgotten?)
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To: sarcasm

Former teachers and parents have come forward to criticise the academy's religious teachings for instilling "hostility to the outsider". They also claim that there is discrimination against female pupils.

What a surprise. Yaawn.


16 posted on 05/29/2004 9:40:34 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING (He is faithful!)
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