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Christian lied about faith to survive Saudi siege
Reuters ^ | 31 May 2004 14:43:21 GMT | Samia Nakhoul

Posted on 05/31/2004 9:00:49 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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Sanitized version, no mention of mutiliation of the 9 killed.
1 posted on 05/31/2004 9:00:50 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Sanitized version, no mention of mutiliation of the 9 killed.

I heard some had been mutilated. No more mention of this.

2 posted on 05/31/2004 9:04:16 AM PDT by SheLion (Please register to vote! We can't afford to be silent.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Nothing wrong with lying to the moslem scum...


3 posted on 05/31/2004 9:06:16 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (I'm isthisnickcool, and I approved this post!)
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I agree....nothing with with lying!


4 posted on 05/31/2004 9:07:08 AM PDT by Arpege92 (There are no more political simpletons in the world today other than European Leftist -Yossi Halevi)
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nothing wrong with lying!


5 posted on 05/31/2004 9:07:32 AM PDT by Arpege92 (There are no more political simpletons in the world today other than European Leftist -Yossi Halevi)
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To: isthisnickcool; hellinahandcart

This guy has just lost his eternal life. He'd better enjoy this one.


6 posted on 05/31/2004 9:07:49 AM PDT by sauropod (Paleo-cons make better lovers)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Matthew 10:32-33 "Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess before my Father which is in heaven. But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven."

This is the first thing I thought of when I read the headline. Very sad.
7 posted on 05/31/2004 9:09:14 AM PDT by DocRock
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To: sauropod

Sez who?


8 posted on 05/31/2004 9:09:18 AM PDT by TheOldRepublic
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This guy has just lost his eternal life. He'd better enjoy this one.
Peter denied Christ 3 times and received forgiveness.

9 posted on 05/31/2004 9:09:30 AM PDT by DallasMike
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

"Everyone therefore who shall confess Me before men, I will also confess him before My Father who is in heaven. But whoever shall deny Me before men, I will also deny him before My Father who is in heaven." Matthew 10:32-33


10 posted on 05/31/2004 9:10:04 AM PDT by JeepInMazar
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To: isthisnickcool
Nothing wrong with lying to the moslem scum...

You do what you have to do to survive. I don't blame the guy. They deserve to be lied to and he probably has family that are very relieved that he is alive.
11 posted on 05/31/2004 9:10:11 AM PDT by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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You guys are nut jobs


12 posted on 05/31/2004 9:10:26 AM PDT by jern
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This is why we're fighting in Iraq. Period.


13 posted on 05/31/2004 9:10:44 AM PDT by Ciexyz ("FR, best viewed with a budgie on hand")
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To: sauropod

Would you have told the Nazis that there were Jews in your attic? Some vengeful deity you have there, that forbids lying to representatives of the devil himself.


14 posted on 05/31/2004 9:10:54 AM PDT by hunter112
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To: DocRock
Matthew 10:32-33 "Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess before my Father which is in heaven. But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven."

I knew I had read that. Oh boy!  Very sad indeed.

15 posted on 05/31/2004 9:11:37 AM PDT by SheLion (Please register to vote! We can't afford to be silent.)
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This is a tough one...Peter denied Jesus three times, and yet still became the "Rock of the Church."

A girl at Columbine refused to denounce her faith and was murdered. Of course, chances are even if she did denounce her faith they would have shot her anyway.

This is a very tough question: is it ok to deny your faith to save your life? How "bad" of a lie is this? Is it worse because you're sort of "reverse witnessing" or would it be worse to die and not be able to live and witness to more people?


16 posted on 05/31/2004 9:11:57 AM PDT by craig_eddy
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You guys are nut jobs

Why do you say that?

17 posted on 05/31/2004 9:13:21 AM PDT by SheLion (Please register to vote! We can't afford to be silent.)
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To: SheLion

What - a mutilation ??


18 posted on 05/31/2004 9:13:35 AM PDT by traumer
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Residents of the compound said the attackers asked everyone they encountered if they were Muslim or Christian, before taking them hostage or killing them.

A test of faith; coming soon to a country near you?

19 posted on 05/31/2004 9:13:58 AM PDT by neutrino (Everybody, soon or late, sits down to a banquet of consequences. Robert Louis Stevenson.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Matthew 10:26-33; 38-39

"So do not be afraid of them. There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known. What I tell you in the dark, speak in the daylight; what is whispered in your ear, proclaim from the roofs. Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell. Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? Yet not one of them will fall to the ground apart from the will of your Father. And even the very hairs of your head are all numbered. So don't be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows. "Whoever acknowledges me before men, I will also acknowledge him before my Father in heaven. But whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Father in heaven. . . .

and anyone who does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me. Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.

20 posted on 05/31/2004 9:14:14 AM PDT by agrarianlady
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