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Sanitized version, no mention of mutiliation of the 9 killed.
1 posted on 05/31/2004 9:00:50 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Sanitized version, no mention of mutiliation of the 9 killed.

I heard some had been mutilated. No more mention of this.

2 posted on 05/31/2004 9:04:16 AM PDT by SheLion (Please register to vote! We can't afford to be silent.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Nothing wrong with lying to the moslem scum...


3 posted on 05/31/2004 9:06:16 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (I'm isthisnickcool, and I approved this post!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Matthew 10:32-33 "Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess before my Father which is in heaven. But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven."

This is the first thing I thought of when I read the headline. Very sad.
7 posted on 05/31/2004 9:09:14 AM PDT by DocRock
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

"Everyone therefore who shall confess Me before men, I will also confess him before My Father who is in heaven. But whoever shall deny Me before men, I will also deny him before My Father who is in heaven." Matthew 10:32-33


10 posted on 05/31/2004 9:10:04 AM PDT by JeepInMazar
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This is why we're fighting in Iraq. Period.


13 posted on 05/31/2004 9:10:44 AM PDT by Ciexyz ("FR, best viewed with a budgie on hand")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Residents of the compound said the attackers asked everyone they encountered if they were Muslim or Christian, before taking them hostage or killing them.

A test of faith; coming soon to a country near you?

19 posted on 05/31/2004 9:13:58 AM PDT by neutrino (Everybody, soon or late, sits down to a banquet of consequences. Robert Louis Stevenson.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Matthew 10:26-33; 38-39

"So do not be afraid of them. There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known. What I tell you in the dark, speak in the daylight; what is whispered in your ear, proclaim from the roofs. Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell. Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? Yet not one of them will fall to the ground apart from the will of your Father. And even the very hairs of your head are all numbered. So don't be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows. "Whoever acknowledges me before men, I will also acknowledge him before my Father in heaven. But whoever disowns me before men, I will disown him before my Father in heaven. . . .

and anyone who does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me. Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.

20 posted on 05/31/2004 9:14:14 AM PDT by agrarianlady
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

What would Peter do?


54 posted on 05/31/2004 9:25:06 AM PDT by evets (God bless president George W. Bush)
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A Christian Arab who was held captive by al Qaeda militants in Saudi Arabia said on Monday he lied to them about his faith and praised their battle against the West, to save his life.

I think the presence of Christian Arabs is often overlooked by those of us in the West. Nominal or practicing, we need to remember there are Arabs who do not proclaim Islam as their religion.

The Orthodox church in the Middle East, for example, seems to be much more friendly to Arafat than they are to the Israeli government. Perhaps this is partially because of the number of Arabs in their congregations.

I do not believe, though, that the terrorists who are bombing women and children on "behalf of the Palestinian cause" are Christian...though I do think there are Christian Arabs among the Palestinian population.

96 posted on 05/31/2004 9:38:00 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

There are people on this earth who would have testified to their Faith in the same situation. Tha idea that God will view them the same way He will view this poor guy is ludicrous.

Peter was Peter. He served God and was used by God. (What was his death like, by the way?)The degree of his remorse for offending in known only to God and is the basis for forgivness or damnation. That's the upper hand God has: He KNOWS who you are and he knows your motives.

One thing is certain: Deny God when it suits you and you had better not rationalize it the way people tend to try to do. "If you are ashamed of ME before men I will be ashamed of YOU before my Father".

Over the years I have considered this question--what would I do in a situation like this guy in the article--and instinct tells me he did the wrong thing. That of course doesn't tell me what I would do but I DO know what is right and what is wrong. God help this guy.


112 posted on 05/31/2004 9:42:26 AM PDT by TalBlack ("Tal, no song means anything without someone else....")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Didn't Peter deny Christ 3 times in one night?

So9

113 posted on 05/31/2004 9:42:28 AM PDT by Servant of the 9 (Screwing the Inscrutable or is it Scruting the Inscrewable?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

CNN,CBS,ABC,NBC, where are the pictures. This is truly horific and all you talk about is the nekked pictures at the prison.


114 posted on 05/31/2004 9:42:33 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"One then asked if I was a Christian or a Muslim. I told him we were Muslims and showed him my colleague's Koran as proof. I told him we supported them and that we were against America and Europe. I had to say that."

So is there still anyone around who doesn't realize all this IS about Islam?

127 posted on 05/31/2004 9:48:03 AM PDT by FITZ
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A Christian Arab who was held captive by al Qaeda militants in Saudi Arabia said on Monday he lied to them about his faith and praised their battle against the West, to save his life

A formerly-Christian Arab counted his own life more dear than his faith.
136 posted on 05/31/2004 9:52:30 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The Prophet Muhammad said, "Lying is wrong, except in three things: the lie of a man to his wife to make her content with him; a lie to an enemy, for war is deception; or
a lie to settle trouble between people" (Qu'ran, 6.459).


172 posted on 05/31/2004 10:06:28 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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For class.


175 posted on 05/31/2004 10:07:14 AM PDT by Van Jenerette (We Have Our Republic - If We Can Keep It!)
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"I went to the room of a Jordanian colleague. Someone banged violently on the door. We opened and there were two men, one with a machinegun, another with a revolver. They were wearing black track suits," he said, adding that one had a wounded arm.

I'm not enlightened enough to know who or won't be condemed for lying about his religion in the face of sociopatic cult members. What I do know is I'm grateful for the 2nd Ammendmant on this Memorial Day. In this country they wouldn't have been able to knock on too many doors to even ask this question once word was out they were in the compound. This small group of scumbags would have been quickly dispatched and the lives of all the unarmed innocent would have been spared.

LBT

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235 posted on 05/31/2004 10:36:00 AM PDT by LiberalBassTurds
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It's shocking I tell you, just shocking.


238 posted on 05/31/2004 10:37:34 AM PDT by ampat
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Christian lied about faith to survive Saudi siege

Under the same circumstances, I would have done the same exact thing.

Imagine a bunch of armed terrorists, ready to cut my throat, asking if I'm christian or muslim....only to tell them that I'm jewish. Forget about it. I'd be the very first to go.

257 posted on 05/31/2004 10:50:35 AM PDT by lowbridge ("You are an American. You are my brother. I would die for you." -Kurdish Sergeant)
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I thought this would be of interest to the list... funny, I can't remember the initials. lol
263 posted on 05/31/2004 10:55:37 AM PDT by Frapster (Biscuits & Gravy Extraordinair)
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