Christian lied about faith to survive Saudi siege

Reuters ^ | 31 May 2004 14:43:21 GMT | Samia Nakhoul

[DocRock]

"You guys are nut jobs"

Why? Because we know scripture?

[Ursus arctos horribilis]

Nor I. It is the duty of all non-Muslimes to lie to the scum. But unlike the Joprdanian here, I would not tell the world I had lied, one knows that Jordan is a hot bed for the creeps ter perps.

[Delta 21]

Deny Christ and God will deny you in the afterlife.

He should enjoy the time he has left on earth. It will be more pleasant than what is in store for him.

[dandelion]

Peter also rejected Jesus before the crowd. Still, I have a feeling Peter will be in heaven...

Our eternal life is not dependent on our perfection. It is dependent on Jesus' perfection - the perfection that understands our human frailties and weaknesses, and loves us yet.

Condemned the ones who murdered the Christians, rather than the Christians who faltered in the face of such evil.

[Ursus arctos horribilis]

I would thank God would make an exception for such times.

[SheLion]

What - a mutilation ??

Huh?

I was wondering why he called us "nut jobs." What was said to make him say that.......

[proud American in Canada]

"Our eternal life is not dependent on our perfection. It is dependent on Jesus' perfection - the perfection that understands our human frailties and weaknesses, and loves us yet."

I have been trying to come up with a way to express my thoughts on this thread, and you have just said it beautifully. Thank you.

[craig_eddy]

A test of faith; coming soon to a country near you?

I fear that it is coming soon. And "Muslim-Americans" (how I hate using references to hyphenated Americans) will find that they will fail the Islamist's "test of faith" because they will be found to be "not Muslim enough."

[Godfollow]

Where do you get that?

[RaceBannon]

Pod, if he HAD eternal life, he still has it.

The question is whether he had it to begin with.

I only hope I would not deny Christ in such a time. Even some major heroes of the reformation denied Jesus the first time, but the last time, they recanted and boldly proclaimed their faith to their death.

[Ann Archy]

Stop it! The ONLY way the world now knows WHY they want to kill is because of this person!

If this person turns his back to Jesus, that's one thing.....but I don't think that's what happened.

[Ragirl]

This guy has just lost his eternal life. He'd better enjoy this one.

You don't make that decision.....Some people in this thread should stop judging the guy for lying and let the Almighty work it out when the time comes.

Peter denied Christ 3 times and received forgiveness. THANK YOU!

[DocRock]

"I was wondering why he called us "nut jobs." What was said to make him say that.......:

I don't know because I didn't judge this person, all I said was that this scripture came to mind and I was sad.

[SheLion]

What - a mutilation ??

Oh! Ok! I'm waking us now. heh!

Someone on Fox News said that some bodies had been mutilated. But then nothing else was mentioned.

[BulletBobCo]

Matthew 10:32-33 "Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess before my Father which is in heaven. But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven."

They weren't confronted by men, but by animals, and vermin at that. I think they get a pass.

[inflation]

The people that see the Bible as the worlds largest chose you own adventure book and will point out 1-3 verses that support their point, ignoring everything else that may hurt their point.

[dyed_in_the_wool]

But whosoever shall deny me before men

These al Qaeda scum are NOT men.

[Lijahsbubbe]

That's twisted. Abraham lied to the Egyptians about his wife, and the Egyptians incurred G-d's wrath, not Abraham. And he put his wife in danger.

What if your kids were in the room with you, would you lie then?

[Torie]

If the scripture you quote demands being honest about your faith to a criminal murdering gang who want to kill you for it, then I disagree with the scripture. It is ludicrous, and wrong. I suspect however your interpretation is idiosyncratic, but that is for others to comment on.

[sauropod]

You're right. I don't make that decision.

But have you forgotten the verse where Jesus says (paraphrasing) "Those who deny Me before men I will also deny. Those who acknowledge Me before men I will also acknowledge."?