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To: SheLion

You say he is going to hell, yet ignore that Peter did the same thing.



71 posted on 05/31/2004 9:29:41 AM PDT by inflation (Cuba = BAD, China = Good? Why, should not both be treated the way Cuba is?)
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To: inflation
Peter did the same thing.

Yes, and Peter's example in this case was not presented as one for us to follow.

I don't know what I'd do in the same situation. As a Christian, I like to be aware of Jesus' teaching on the matter so that I can prepare myself if such an instance would occur in my life.

Elisabeth Elliot's husband was killed with a rain of Auca arrows. He said 'He is no fool if he should choose to give what he cannot keep to gain what he can never lose'. The Aucas later repented of their action and laid down their arms and murderous ways.

It is certainly the most difficult scenario on earth to face as a Christian.

99 posted on 05/31/2004 9:38:47 AM PDT by agrarianlady
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To: inflation
You say he is going to hell, yet ignore that Peter did the same thing.

I didn't so no such thing!

You go back and find out where I did!  I never condemned anyone to hell.  I was agreeing with DocRock that I, too, had read that verse in the Bible.  You show me where I ever said that!

100 posted on 05/31/2004 9:38:54 AM PDT by SheLion (Please register to vote! We can't afford to be silent.)
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To: inflation
You say he is going to hell, yet ignore that Peter did the same thing.

Peter, faced with the fact of the resurrected Christ, did not care about the threats of the earthly authorities and faced imprisonment and excecution more than once, ultimately being martyred because he would not deny his Lord.

The disillusioned Peter who saw his rabbi railroaded and executed, and had no idea that his grave would be empty a few days later, is no example for Christians to emulate.

I wouldn't automatically consign anyone to hell for lying about his faith, but Christian persecution under Islamic rule isn't terribly different from Christian persecution under Roman rule, and one of the great early controversies of the Church was over how to deal with the tratidores who denied the faith to save their necks.

122 posted on 05/31/2004 9:45:18 AM PDT by RansomOttawa
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