Posted on 05/31/2004 1:03:21 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper
Yes, but the South was part of the Union before they succeded and became the Confederacy. So in a way it was just going back to the way it was before the war.
This is and always will be our nation and will be honored and cherished.
We have no 'stockholm syndrome' nor were we broken. If you have to even ask why we are so loyal and patriotic then you don't have the love of Country in your heart and therefore you'll never understand.
It is what it is.
I've never quite thought of that way. You're right -- that does seem to be an ironic twist on things. You can't drive a mile in Dallas without seeing an American flag, either hanging outside stores or on car bumpers. They're everywhere. Northerners visiting me have remarked about it and I had also noticed in my many trips to the north that displays of the flag are much scarcer up there.Could it be the Stockholm syndrome? I don't know.
I heard on NPR (shoot me I know) the other day that there are around 85 children of Union soldiers and over 200 children of CSA soldiers surviving.
Bizarre. When we starting hearing about 1,100 WWII veterans dying every day, I began thinking about the vets from WWI. I was just wondering yesterday if there were any "first generation" links to that war. I supposed there weren't any left to the Civil War, or the Spanish-American war. I guess I was wrong.
It's inherently that white Southerners tend to be fairly homogenous, have most ancestors that predate the Civil War and are most conservative socially.
All of that contributes. The South is also more rural (but that is changing quick) and that contributes.
It is ironic granted although in the aforementioned dispute, the South had issue with Yankee political hegemony and not the Founders....most of whom the more influential were Southern as well.
Not what happens in Europe-ask a Scotsman wha he thinks of England.
So, this 73-year old guy can say, "Yeah, my dad fought in the Civil War..." Wild.
I think I saw it on a Simpson's cartoon it was a Lisa Simpson episode where she got in trouble by mistake for not being patriotic enough and a Southern chartacter yelled out "she is insulting the country my granpappy fought against!" or something like that. I found it funny but also it made me think being that I am from Europe and while I consider myself a Civil War buff I can not get that answer.
By the way....we were NEVER broken and Stockholm is for sissies.
Just look around this forum, we have not forgotten about when Yankees act smug and self righteous (some still do today...not all or even most arguably).
I'm 4 generations removed from my closest ancestor who fought in that war and he was only a kid at Vicksburg.
Btw, we would bristle much less about it all if folks left us alone about it but they can't help it.....we know that.
Agreed - the founders were never in question. Is this why the South will only vote for a Southerner over a Northerner even if the Northerner is a Republican (Jimmy Carter - Bill Clinton). No other region has such native son loyalty - that could be it - after all Union armies did burn down much of the South and wage economic war on Southern civilians in a rather ruthless way.
What a wild story! What a life this old lady had ... can you imagine the scandal in 1931 when she married her step-grandson?
My opinion? The South only recovered from the economic distruction of the Civil War in the last 30 years.
His name was William Lundy and he was from Crestview, Florida. Not all that far from Enterprise, Alabama where She died.
I am sure the last three survivors of the WBTS were Confederate, probably because they tended to have younger soldiers.
You mean I can't ask such a question? As a European origin naturalized American citizen I know in Europe grudges ans losses in war are remembered for generations. Yet the Southern man salutes the flag of teh nation that burned down Atlanta and other Southern cities. I was only asking what caused the Southern people to overlook this? Complex question I as a transplanted into the North American can not answer - maybe even Southerners can't answer it either?
Bump. May the good lady rest in peace.
(Speaking as a northerner whose family history is steeped in the 48th Pennsylvania Volunteer Infantry, FWIW...)
The answer, as I understand it, is that Union means Union. The rebellious States weren't simply busted up and recolonized by the North; they were readmitted to the Union. What remained of the Confederacy and its culture was fully a part of the character of the Nation that resulted. It was more of a merger than a conquest.
If I was a foreign power the nation I want kick my ass and occupying me is the USA hands down. They fix you up after and let you be (more or less).
I think Southerners now fight for the Union, as it were, because they're fighters!
In some places, there is still deep anger towards the Yankees, especially in isolated areas where the guerilla war had neighbors fighting one another. But just as the U.S. is now, and has been for over 100 years, an ally of Britain, the South may have conflicts with the north, but we're still together against the rest of the world.
How many widows did he leave behind? Must've been a Mormon.
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