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The New H.I.V. Test Offers Quicker Results, but the Same Agony
NY Times ^ | June 1, 2004 | DAVID TULLER

Posted on 05/31/2004 10:17:55 PM PDT by neverdem

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Bizarre - viral apartheid - how about Russian roulette. I wasn't going to post this article until I saw that comment. Paging A.B. Normal!
1 posted on 05/31/2004 10:17:57 PM PDT by neverdem
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PING


2 posted on 05/31/2004 10:20:24 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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About a third of those who take publicly financed standard H.I.V. tests fail to return for their results

Let's see now, the queers come in, take the test, I pay for it, then they don't bother to come back to get the result?

3 posted on 05/31/2004 10:25:58 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: neverdem
That sort of discrimination, however understandable, long ago earned a name in the gay community: viral apartheid.
We all have to pay for this man's lunacy and the lunacy of his entire "community" in higher insurance rates, medical costs, increased risks of infection and even antibiotic resistant super-infections.
4 posted on 05/31/2004 10:27:15 PM PDT by Asclepius (protectionists would outsource our dignity and prosperity in return for illusory job security)
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To: neverdem
Go to Massachusetts and get a license to die!
5 posted on 05/31/2004 10:29:54 PM PDT by Hotdog
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To: neverdem

Sounds like a future Darwin award nominee.


7 posted on 05/31/2004 10:37:54 PM PDT by antienvironmentalist
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"You drive yourself nuts"

Well, I guess that statement certainly is true, though the sentence is lacking the preposition "towards" in between the words "yourself" and "nuts"...which is the basic cause of the whole problem this sweetie-pie quivers and trembles about finding himself with in the first place.


8 posted on 05/31/2004 10:41:05 PM PDT by A Jovial Cad ("I had no shoes and I complained, until I saw a man who had no feet.")
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To: neverdem
You replay your recent sex life.... You drive yourself nuts... You stumble through... ...wave of relief helps to quell, at least for a while, the chattering in your brain.

Speak for yourself. Why do people use "You" when relating first-hand experience?

9 posted on 05/31/2004 10:45:17 PM PDT by Spirochete
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To: neverdem
I certainly know men who have come up positive in recent years. Broken condoms. Slip-ups. Impulsive acts fueled by lust and drugs and a hunger for connection. I have known the pain that brought them there - the death of friends and lovers, the loneliness.

Gee, haven't these people read an AIDS pamplet yet, or learned about the risk of AIDS on MTV? sarcasm/

10 posted on 05/31/2004 10:46:10 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: neverdem

Homosexual behavior in all its neurotic, unhealthy ways. His "chattering brain", his refusal to avoid those who are already HIV-positive, etc. Sorry I don't buy the "homos are just like everybody else" rhetoric.


11 posted on 05/31/2004 10:53:24 PM PDT by ikka
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Pingers, lj.

I got it... ping.

12 posted on 05/31/2004 11:01:53 PM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: Hotdog
Go to Massachusetts and get a license to die!

Have a heart, he might be a "Log Cabin" pubbie. Some people believe homosexual "marriage" will decrease promiscuity within the gay lifestyle, thus less transmission of HIV. I have a bridge to sell anyone who believes that.

13 posted on 05/31/2004 11:02:26 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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How many partners in the last year? Enough. Positive partners that you know of? Yes.

That's a very dangerous sex life. It's too bad his counselor doesn't tell him about the thousands that have left the homosexual lifestyle, and that there is hope for him.

14 posted on 05/31/2004 11:06:46 PM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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"But I treasure human touch, so celibacy does not feel like a viable option to me. "

Remember this comment. It does not pertain only to gay men - it is a part of being human.

AND! Aids is spreading faster in heterosexual communities - and all sin is the same before God. What I cannot accept is the behaviour and culture, which I believe Paul was speaking drirectly to in his age.
15 posted on 05/31/2004 11:07:35 PM PDT by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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I know that one answer to the epidemic for a single gay man is to avoid sex altogether. But I treasure human touch, so celibacy does not feel like a viable option to me.

"I treasure human touch..." Oh, how melodramatic. What's amazing is that this guy apparently doesn't see any irony in saying that avoiding AIDS is not "a viable option..."

Mr. Tuller, remind me and the rest of America why we are supposed to care more about your life than you do. I keep forgetting.

I could also, I suppose, limit my contacts to H.I.V.-negative men. Straight people recommend that strategy as if it is a no-brainer.

That's right, we do. If you had a CAT scan along with your HIV test, maybe you would know why -- or, actually, perhaps someone could try to explain it to you.

But they are not confronting a dating pool so full of potential risk. In my city, lots of the gay men I meet are H.I.V.-positive. Thanks to the current crop of medications, many have successfully kept illness at bay and continue to lead full lives.

Giving you all the freedom that you desire to fornicate like rabbits. Yeah, that worked out real well in the 1970's, didn't it?

To reject such a huge number of people out of hand feels wrong, like rejecting someone for having cancer or diabetes. That sort of discrimination, however understandable, long ago earned a name in the gay community: viral apartheid.

Yeah, buddy, it "feels wrong" to reject someone with this communicable disease that you have so much trepidation about, "like rejecting someone for having cancer or diabetes," which you can't catch.

Well, that does it. Not only is homosexuality abnormal, it rots your brain, too.

16 posted on 05/31/2004 11:47:58 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Just because I don't think like you doesn't mean I don't think for myself)
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To: neverdem
I see how getting infected might bring some flicker of relief; it's done, the fight's over, you can relax now.

And people live like this voluntarily.

17 posted on 05/31/2004 11:54:11 PM PDT by A.J.Armitage (http://calvinist-libertarians.blogspot.com/)
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Aids is spreading faster in heterosexual communities -

If the implication is that AIDS is spreading faster among straights due to unsafe sex, I invite you to back that up with some numbers.

18 posted on 05/31/2004 11:56:04 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Just because I don't think like you doesn't mean I don't think for myself)
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To: neverdem

Ah the fear pain and suspence is horrible, but once cleared he goes right back for a deplorable repeat performance.

Except for the high cost passed on to tax payers, these stupid Darwin Award seekers can go the way of the dodo bird with no regret on my part.


19 posted on 05/31/2004 11:57:26 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: neverdem

cry me a river, fella.....


20 posted on 06/01/2004 12:05:44 AM PDT by cherry
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