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Iraq "Wedding Bombing" a Fraud
Mullen

Posted on 06/01/2004 6:08:53 AM PDT by pabianice

Just reviewed a classified brief on the supposed wedding - no way it was.

Here are some unclass details I can provide (brief had lots of pictures to back up the details): > > >

- Weddings traditionally held on Thursdays in Iraq to take advantage of Friday as a day of rest - raid took place on Tuesday night.

- Only permanent dwelling at the site held large stocks of food, bedding, medical supplies (lots of these - was the wedding going to be a cage match of some sort or were the caterers just bad cooks?), ammunition and weapons, as well as an apparent document forging set up.

Meat was still frozen solid - not prepared for a wedding feast and there were no Stocks of dishes, plates, etc.

- Contrary to "media reports," no "Nuptial Tent" was found and a 1KM area around the site was searched - any further away than that would be just too far for the catering staff to walk carrying all those huge platters of food - against union rules.

- No evidence of any means of support for the house (like sheep farming which is most common in that area).

All evidence pointed to a smuggler way station - fit perfectly the description of several Other found in the past.

- "Wedding guests" (deceased of course) were almost all men of military age, only a couple of women, no elders at all and only one child (wounded) noted. All dressed as city dwellers, not bedouins who would hold a wedding at such a location. All of the deceased were sterilized, as in none had any form of ID on them at all. Only ID's found were in a nice neat stack inside the house - and then quite a few less of those than there were people at the site.

- Weapons were varied and included RPG's (they really suck when you fire them up in the air for celebration), there were also military binoculars (when they separate the men and women they have to look at each other with bino's I guess), and IED making material (party favors?).

- Lots of clothing prepackaged in pants and shirt sets (guerranimals for guerrilla's).

- There were also no gifts, no decorations, no food set out or left over, and the good bit of money recovered was all in the pockets of the "guests" (maybe they were just cheap guests). > > >

I strongly suspect that after their Foreign Fighter way station got whacked, they tried to set it up to look like what happened in Afghanistan when a wedding was actually hit due to celebratory firing being taken for ground fire by orbiting aircraft. I also would not put it past the scum bags to sweep a local village for approriately aged "guests" to kill and display for the TV cameras. Our BDA assessment was made by people on the site just after the schwacking and they took their time to count and exploit the site. This is just speculation on my part.

> > >

Bottom line assessment: Good hit - no wedding. These were foreign fighters that had just crossed into Iraq and got an early trip to paradise and the martyrdom hall of fame.

> > > Thought it was important to get this word out as much as possible as you won't see any of this on CNN. > > >

Take care, > > >

LtCol Bill Mullen, USMC

Executive Assistant

J-3, Deputy Director for Regional Operations


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 229; fraud; iraq; mediafraud; weddingattack

1 posted on 06/01/2004 6:08:55 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

Why can't bad guys have weddings? Maybe it was both.


2 posted on 06/01/2004 6:11:41 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: pabianice

The truth is even worse! The military is covering up - it was a GAY WEDDING! Our homophobic military bombed a bunch of innocent gay men!!!!! [/sarcasm]


3 posted on 06/01/2004 6:13:47 AM PDT by ikka
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To: pabianice

Interesting indeed.


4 posted on 06/01/2004 6:14:01 AM PDT by T'wit (Ya can't win! They say they want martyrdom but if you martyr some, the others get all bummed out.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative

After the wedding the couple shared a huge climax. It was a boomer.


5 posted on 06/01/2004 6:16:48 AM PDT by TUX (Domino effect)
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To: pabianice
Can we establish a provenance for this (e.g., do you know the writer personally)? If it's verifiable, it needs to be promulgated, but if it's (yet another) email hoax, that would be counterproductive.
6 posted on 06/01/2004 6:16:51 AM PDT by Physicist
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To: pabianice

According to the after-action report, the assessment team was on the target for about an hour. That's plenty of time for them to have gotten the facts. I think LTCOL Mullen is right on target.


7 posted on 06/01/2004 6:18:03 AM PDT by Poundstone
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To: pabianice
thanks for your post - the truth is the bad guys are losing and they are just playing to the media.....the middle east is scared to death of democracy....they don't want to lose their gravy (oil) train!

----> Chuck
8 posted on 06/01/2004 6:19:52 AM PDT by chuckr
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To: pabianice
But they found this!


9 posted on 06/01/2004 6:20:00 AM PDT by Sloth (We cannot defeat foreign enemies of the Constitution if we yield to the domestic ones.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative

The FACTS found on the ground do
not support that a wedding took
place.

In a hypothetical case, bad guys
could have weddings.

This is a fact-driven report of
an ACTUAL - not hypothetical-
event.


10 posted on 06/01/2004 6:20:11 AM PDT by txrangerette
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To: pabianice; StriperSniper; Mo1; Peach; Howlin; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; RandallFlagg; ...

Confiscated items are on display while Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt, chief U.S. military spokesman in Baghdad, unseen, speaks during a press conference in Baghdad, Iraq (news - web sites), Monday, May 24, 2004. The U.S. military introduced the photographs Monday to bolster its contention that American aircraft attacked a safehouse for foreign fighters near the Syrian border on Wednesday, May 19, 2004, not a wedding party, as claimed by Iraqi survivors and police and suggested by footage from the scene. (AP Photo/Karim Kadim)

11 posted on 06/01/2004 6:25:16 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: ikka
Yep they were planning their trip to Massachusetts to tie the knot.
12 posted on 06/01/2004 6:27:24 AM PDT by boomop1
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To: pabianice
set it up to look like what happened in Afghanistan when a wedding was actually hit due to celebratory firing being taken for ground fire by orbiting aircraft.

I'm getting tired of the terrorists' claims that firing powerful weapons into the air is some ancient honorable mideast "tradition."

I mean...


14 posted on 06/01/2004 6:31:54 AM PDT by syriacus (Have you hugged a rudderless, down-at-the-mouth liberal today?)
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To: pabianice

Not only was this a fraud, but they used the same technique in Afghanistan.


15 posted on 06/01/2004 6:37:06 AM PDT by TommyDale
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WHO in the librat media stated this incident as fact? Statements similar to, "How does this tragedy set America back," and, "How many innocents did our military kill," just had to have been made by Couric, Rather, Brokow and their fellow traitors. Who said what when, and will they APOLOGIZE??!?!
16 posted on 06/01/2004 6:38:33 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">miserable failure)
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To: pabianice

What time of the day did the strike occur? I thought that I heard somewhere that it was in the middle of the night, another strange time to have a wedding.


17 posted on 06/01/2004 6:40:48 AM PDT by pghkevin (Have you hugged your kids today? Have you thanked someone in the Military today?)
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To: pghkevin

3AM


18 posted on 06/01/2004 6:41:28 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">miserable failure)
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To: pabianice
Those Syrian-Iraqi-terrorist-insurgents need to take some lessons from the Palestinians on how to fake out the media:

The Pali's are pretty good at falsifying for the media. Remember a couple of years ago, the 'dead' guy being carried on the pallet--until the helicopter showed up, and his friends took off, and he got up from the pallet and ran. Well, now we see Pali's using (though denied by the UN) a UN ambulance for their transportation:

Video Depicting Terrorists´ Use of UN Ambulance Released....link to video included
19 posted on 06/01/2004 6:43:38 AM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: syriacus
I'm getting tired of the terrorists' claims that firing powerful weapons into the air is some ancient honorable mideast "tradition."

Isn't that written in the Koran? "Ye shall fire thou AK-47 into the air whenst thou vow to take thee a wife or goat."

You mean that Mohammed didn't write a law allowing that in the Koran?

Well, color me flabbergasted.

[lol]
20 posted on 06/01/2004 6:49:15 AM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: valleyboyabroad

they say it was a wedding, but never who was getting married, if it was a wedding, then they would be saying poor mohammed and ishtar, they are dead now. no names though - no wedding.


21 posted on 06/01/2004 6:53:30 AM PDT by RolandBurnam
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To: pabianice
Weddings traditionally held on Thursdays in Iraq to take advantage of Friday as a day of rest - raid took place on Tuesday night.

It appears as though Scheherezade Faramarzi of the AP is a fraud. She knows what the traditional wedding day in Iraq is, and she refused to "report" it.

Perhaps someone can ferret out her email address, and ask her about it.

22 posted on 06/01/2004 7:00:26 AM PDT by an amused spectator (The SeeBS of 2004 would have revealed the precise date and location of the Normandy Invasion)
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To: pghkevin

0300 hrs


24 posted on 06/01/2004 7:10:51 AM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE.)
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To: pabianice

I would just like to know why we HAVE to allow these people
to keep their AK's for "celebrations", when the local police
here will come around and threaten to arrest me if I should
happen to shoot off some FIRECRACKERS to celebrate Independence
Day?


25 posted on 06/01/2004 7:24:14 AM PDT by G-Bear (Everything I need to know, I learned from "Lonesome Dove.")
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To: pabianice

Why would anybody question the Iraqis? Didn't they establish their credibility when we bombed the baby milk factory?


26 posted on 06/01/2004 7:30:36 AM PDT by You Dirty Rats (WE WILL WIN WITH W - Isara)
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To: Sloth

ROFLMAO!!


27 posted on 06/01/2004 7:40:24 AM PDT by Chieftain (To all who serve and support those who serve - thank you!)
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To: OXENinFLA
Gee ... They brought an explosive bomb as a wedding gift .. It's what ever new bride asks for .. /sarcasm >

I didn't believe this story about a Wedding from the very beginning
28 posted on 06/01/2004 7:47:06 AM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: pabianice

Did they have any ricin, er uh rice to throw at the newlyweds?


29 posted on 06/01/2004 7:51:47 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Teach a Democrat to fish and he will curse you for not just giving him the fish.)
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To: syriacus
"Shouldn't a society that reveres the middle ages be shooting longbows at weddings?"

Longbows just don't have the same report, and there's rarely that flame thing when they're discharged after dark!

30 posted on 06/01/2004 7:59:10 AM PDT by Redbob (still hoping for the "self-illuminating glass-bottomed parking lot" solution to the Iraq problem)
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To: G-Bear
"I would just like to know why we HAVE to allow these people to keep their AK's for "celebrations", when the local police here will come around and threaten to arrest me if I should happen to shoot off some FIRECRACKERS to celebrate Independence Day?"

Rather than take the AK's away from possibly freedom-loving Iraqis, sounds like you ought to get one of your own.

31 posted on 06/01/2004 8:02:42 AM PDT by Redbob (still hoping for the "self-illuminating glass-bottomed parking lot" solution to the Iraq problem)
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To: pabianice
Iraq "Wedding Bombing" a Fraud

D'OH!

32 posted on 06/01/2004 8:04:35 AM PDT by Publius6961 (I don't do diplomacy either.)
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To: ikka

Operation The Destruction of Sodom and Gommorah


33 posted on 06/01/2004 8:09:09 AM PDT by Mustangcountry
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To: Mustangcountry

Seriously though I knew this was so fake right when I heard this "story" reported because it sounded like that faked "Afghan" wedding party story.


34 posted on 06/01/2004 8:11:04 AM PDT by Mustangcountry
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To: an amused spectator
>> It appears as though Scheherezade Faramarzi of the AP is a fraud.

Axis Sally, Tokyo Rose, Hanoi Jane, and now Scheherezade, the Shriek of Araby.

35 posted on 06/01/2004 8:37:22 AM PDT by T'wit (Ya can't win! They say they want martyrdom but if you martyr some, the others get all bummed out.)
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To: TomGuy
>> "Ye shall fire thou AK-47 into the air whenst thou vow to take thee a wife or goat."

No, it's only when thou takest a wife. When thou takest a goat is a much more solemn and holy rite, and besides, you have to put your AK-47 down because you'll need both hands free to please thyself and the goat.

36 posted on 06/01/2004 9:13:20 AM PDT by T'wit (Ya can't win! They say they want martyrdom but if you martyr some, the others get all bummed out.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Why can't bad guys have weddings? Maybe it was both.

So come up with some circumstantial evidence to support this assertion.

37 posted on 06/01/2004 9:20:51 AM PDT by Coop (Freedom isn't free)
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To: pabianice

The media dogs were way too eager to call this one a wedding for me to believe it. If they wait for facts to come out, it's much less damaging.


38 posted on 06/01/2004 10:09:09 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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To: Coop

I wasn't making any kind of argument-- just throwing out the possibility that it was both.


39 posted on 06/01/2004 10:38:01 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative

Yes, but I've seen very little evidence to support the theory that a wedding was going on at all. That belated, suspect video is about all I can think of right now.


40 posted on 06/01/2004 10:40:30 AM PDT by Coop (Freedom isn't free)
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To: pabianice

Not sure where you are in the J-3 food chain, but someone needs to get this to Brett Baier of FNC. Brett will run with it, even if the rest of the media outlets ignore it. This confirms my original suspicions about that so-called "wedding."


41 posted on 06/01/2004 10:41:50 AM PDT by Spook86
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To: OXENinFLA

Wow! The bride and groom's families must not get along too well.


42 posted on 06/01/2004 10:49:05 AM PDT by Destructor
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To: ikka

lmao!

Seriously, this is too little, too late. The military and the CPA are losing the propaganda war, badly, and need to figure out how to better-react to events like this.


43 posted on 06/01/2004 10:55:12 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (hoplophobia is a mental aberration rather than a mere attitude)
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To: pabianice
raid took place on Tuesday night.

That's good enough right there. That was no wedding reception.

44 posted on 06/01/2004 10:57:36 AM PDT by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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To: pabianice

You know what? It doesn't matter. The terrorists, with their willing accomplices in the media got the lie out and they've moved on.


45 posted on 06/01/2004 10:58:41 AM PDT by AmishDude
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To: Sloth

that is way too funny.LMAO!


46 posted on 06/01/2004 10:59:27 AM PDT by oust the louse
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To: Coop

That's fine. I don't have a dog in this fight.


47 posted on 06/01/2004 4:57:29 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: pabianice

And we will see this enumerated on ABC, CNN, CBS, MSNBC, ect tonight? HAH! I believe the military people who examine these sites for a living and to aid in keeping our Soldiers alive. The alphabet media prefers to believe the lying Arab media because it suits the American media's campaign to get their socialist freak Kerry elected.


48 posted on 06/01/2004 5:10:57 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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