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(from 1946) Americans Are Losing the Victory in Europe
kultursmog dot com ^ | 1946 | John dos Passos

Posted on 06/01/2004 5:27:52 PM PDT by doug from upland

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41 posted on 06/01/2004 6:38:18 PM PDT by Lyford
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To: KellyAdmirer
I have a Father-in-Law and Mother-in-Law who both were living in Post War Italy. All I have ever heard from both of them is that when the Americans came, things started getting better. It was Hell under the Fascist's, German's, British and the likes, but the American Troops were helpful and rebuilt their society. I'm sure there were bad apples back then as now, but look at the big picture and the reality is we saved that hellhole of a continent from it self, picked it up and put it back on its feet.
42 posted on 06/01/2004 6:54:27 PM PDT by Woodman ("One of the most striking differences between a cat and a lie is that a cat has only nine lives." PW)
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To: Woodman
The original posting on this Life Magazine article came from a blog called Jessica's Well.

The link to the original post is http://www.jessicaswell.com/MT/archives/000872.html

Check it out. There are tons and tons of comments there.

43 posted on 06/01/2004 7:20:25 PM PDT by Natalie in Midland
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To: doug from upland

BTTT


44 posted on 06/01/2004 7:27:55 PM PDT by Sam's Army (Hang up and drive, dammit!)
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To: doug from upland
This is for real????

I presumed this was a parody.
45 posted on 06/01/2004 7:27:55 PM PDT by Incorrigible (immanentizing the eschaton)
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To: doug from upland

Truman should have planned for the peace before starting the war. [/sarcasm]


46 posted on 06/01/2004 7:38:29 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (NEOCON NOW)
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To: KellyAdmirer
We have swept away Hitlerism, but a great many Europeans feel that the cure has been worse than the disease.

I imagine that is exactly how they felt in Poland, E. Germany, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, .....

47 posted on 06/01/2004 7:42:35 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (NEOCON NOW)
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To: doug from upland
Here is an article from the New York Times dated Dec.7 1945.

Kind of reminds me of the no WMD rant we hear today!

48 posted on 06/01/2004 7:51:47 PM PDT by tapatio
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To: Incorrigible

This is indeed for real.


49 posted on 06/01/2004 7:52:12 PM PDT by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: tapatio
Or Dec.3 1945 New York Times
50 posted on 06/01/2004 7:56:01 PM PDT by tapatio
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To: nopardons; Petronski
Was he?

I was recollecting 'Mid-Century', in which he more or less defends America against the Reds.

It's been 40 years; hard to believe how the time goes!

You're right, I believe - he was anti-Stalin, but a left sympathizer.

51 posted on 06/01/2004 8:10:38 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: TexasGreg
Isn't it just amazing that so few Americans have any comprehension of history?

The thing that slays me is the way the PC/leftist/liberal crowd valorizes our conduct in WWII while our conduct in Iraq is demonized.

NPR did a piece on Ernie Pyle over the weekend, and they were getting all moony over casualties in the Air War with returning Fortresses firing red flares, and the waiting for them, and so on. No mention that these guys were slaughtering innocent civilians by the thousands - tens of thousands!

I watched a show about "Bull" Halsey, who called outright for the genocide of the Japanese - "When I am done Japanese will be a language spoken only in hell" Imagine! Actually, I think he was a little over the top even then. They showed him at some kind of civic leader pep talk, where he humorously did a one-up on "the only good Indian is a dead Indian" He said the only good Japanese was one who was dead for a month - a little abstract, but nonetheless I felt like the civilian audience was taken aback.

52 posted on 06/01/2004 8:11:40 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: doug from upland

timely repost bump


53 posted on 06/01/2004 8:12:05 PM PDT by VOA
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To: nopardons
Thanks for finding and posting this.It just shows that there have always been defeatists and naysayers.

Why am I reminded of Ann Coulter's book Treason ??

54 posted on 06/01/2004 8:20:40 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: Tamsey; prairiebreeze

PING


55 posted on 06/01/2004 8:26:41 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: headsonpikes
It was 1959 or 1960,when I was forced to read/study his absolutely HORRID work,by an obvious lefty English teacher.She made us do research on him and if memory serves,he was a HUGE Trotskyite.Of course the Stalinists hated him.

It's been a VERY long time,since I've thought of him,but that's my still vivid memory...he was a faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar lefty.I don't know anything at all about his "defending" America,which might have come at a later time.But IF you have the stomach to read his "USA",you'll see that his writings weren't pro-American.

Even as a kid,I was rapidly anti-Commie and having to read dos Passos' works,make me want to shred the books.

56 posted on 06/01/2004 8:26:49 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: dr_lew

Far too few people know any history at all and much of what they think they know about certain eras,is false.


57 posted on 06/01/2004 8:28:56 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Mo1

Becuase so many Americans really ARE traitors,now.


58 posted on 06/01/2004 8:29:44 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: doug from upland

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1145878/posts

Link for lurkers/posters to Mark Levin's article about The New York Times pushing for cut-and-run
because America was doing everything wrong in occupied Germany in November 1945 (IIRC).


59 posted on 06/01/2004 8:32:43 PM PDT by VOA
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To: nopardons

I read 'Mid-Century' before I read his USA trilogy, and was astounded to find him such a commie! lol!

Orwell was a more subtle man than you credit him, imo.

He saw through the commie hoax before his comrades - give him that.


60 posted on 06/01/2004 8:32:48 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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