Posted on 06/01/2004 11:22:37 PM PDT by churchillbuff
Edited on 06/02/2004 6:48:11 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
If Jefferson provided the essential poetry of American political discourse, Hamilton established the prose of American statecraft. Ron Chernow Alexander Hamilton
THIS WEEK the President, in an agreeably prosaic frame of mind, turned U.S. policy in Iraq in a direction for which Americans are ready.
Remember, Pat Roberts is a conservative.
yada yada, I wear bow ties, yada yada, and I am connected in the Beltway and like baseball, yada yada, listen to me, I am important.
George, stick to brown-nosing Stepalloverus and promoting the use of a thesaurus.
As far as the US getting into social engineering...this is just an ideological Mideast Marshall plan. Democracy is the antidote to Islamofascism. I think Bush is right...it's clear some freepers disagree.
I love the First Amendment.
Iraq is a great experiment.
We'll see what happens.
Timing this with the beginning of the New Iraq is curious indeed.
To use the previous poster's analogy:
We cant make the world our oyster, but we can cultivate a pearl or two for our own good and the world's good and see what happens.
Dollars to donuts Iraq is a functioning democratic state in 2006. .... IF Bush is re-elected.
George is starting to have the same bad luck in timing that afflicts Al Gore. The events in Iraq today would appear to blow his entire screed out of the water.
Yeah right and Iraq was going to write a new constitution and elect government officials if we had just been nice to Saddam. What a maroon George has become. Force is providing Iraq with democracy ( maybe not a republic but at least not a dictator either)
"Some say that U.S. policy toward Iraq primarily needs a military success akin to what saved Lincoln politically when things were going badly in 1864 the capture of Atlanta. But what Iraq event could be analogous?"
The appointment of the new Prime Minister is analogous.
Atlanta ensured that there was an inevitable conclusion to come - the victory of the north.
The transitional Government makes the future path all but inevitable: Democracy in Iraq.
Sometimes HOPE IS A VIRTUE.
Hey did ya catch the news out of Iraq today? You must be really depressed.
If Will had been writing during WWII he probably would have committed suicide once he heard the Germans had Bastogne surrounded - not that anything even remotely comparable has happened during the war in Iraq.
Democracy has o be fought for by the people who want to be free.
Nothing like the daily display of your agenda.
So when things in Iraq actually turn out for the better, will you then STFU?
China is slowly being transformed by Capitalism.
Sure..they are in the drivers seat..all those Inter Stan pipelines..the oil'gas and world synergy pineing to bed with them..yet..the alternative could be a tantrauming machine..with millions to burn off in war.
Where's Russia today...their not doing the arms thingy much anymore..busy obtaining U.S. Dollars..and ya..their system is wretched gangster land..but they are not sparking anymore wars with Israel...taking the world to the threshold of nuclear war.
Materialism is eating the floor out on Islam.
Go visit their Jihad websites are read the endless laments on how the faithfull are failing to fullfill Jihad..are to busy enjoying lifes pleasures and the persuit of happiness.
For all of Americas faults..she has carried a wretched and ungratefull world forward into the 21st.
Her good works outnumber her sins...She is a beacon of hope in a world of treachery and selfishness.
I'll be the first to express happiness if my fears are ultimately shown to be wrong. So far, I haven't been wrong - - - the folks who promised a cakewalk and an easy reconstruction have been wrong, yet they get angry at the people, including independent-minded conservatives such as myself, who warned that it wouldn't be so.
-You just have to be kidding. You haven't been right yet. BTW, who has EVER said Iraq would be a "cake walk"?
I am sorry, maybe I am missed it -- but did you predict it would take three weeks to topple Hussein's regime? Somehow I suspect not. No matter though because any rational observer would have to consider that to be a remarkable achievement. Wouldn't you agree?
No one promised a cakewalk. Are you getting your talking points from the DNC ? Let me guess, yes!
And George Will is a longtime closet liberal, eh? It amazes me that any conservative who offers a contrary opinion on this board is kneejerked as a DNC plant.
Many people in the administration have said on record that the occupation of Iraq has not gone as well as it could / should have. Are they suspect too?
This is shoot the messenger behavior that does nothing to further the discussion.
Yes, and they will STILL be wretched and ungrateful...but we have given them the means to destroy us, once they don't need us. Note the unqualified support given us by our Chinese and Russian "friends" that you mention with the war on terror. Silly utopians.
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