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Action Alert: ACCENTURE is awarded U.S. CONTRACT FOR BORDERS (Foreign Corporation!)
New York Times ^ | June 2, 2004 | Eric Lichtblau & John Markoff

Posted on 06/02/2004 5:19:18 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING

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To: ETERNAL WARMING
Time to register your anger over a foreign entity in charge of our security!

They are not being put in charge of our security.

They are building the system that my coworkers and I will use to screen aliens.

61 posted on 06/02/2004 8:20:04 PM PDT by Marine Inspector (Stan Barnes for Congress (http://www.stanbarnes.com/))
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To: ETERNAL WARMING

>>>"There is an assurance that all this work will be done here and, of course, all the taxes will be paid here as well. In its second quarter filing, Accenture, I should note, paid 35 percent of its earnings in taxes to the United States from its United States operations."

Here's how it could work: 80% of contract goes to India for "R&D licensing" and the rest is U.S. labor with taxes on the revenues - R&D licensing - US labor.

So their "35% tax" on "US operations" would end up a sly Clinton verbal trick.

Many corporations move their earnings offshore using similar tricks. I wonder if Accenture would do the same?

Why can't we spend this money to keep out the millions of illegals each year?

Hoppy


62 posted on 06/02/2004 8:20:17 PM PDT by Hop A Long Cassidy
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To: ETERNAL WARMING

Accenture - one of bill & hillary's most infamous anti-freedom rip off companies! Now under a new name (same ownership) registered in Bermuda so they pay NO U.S.A. TAXES AT ALL!!!!!!!!!

This is the company that leads the pack on your 'voting machines' - their list of clients is a who's-who of the worlds left-most organizations!

Look them up.


63 posted on 06/02/2004 8:46:52 PM PDT by steplock (http://www.gohotsprings.com)
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To: steplock
Accenture - one of bill & hillary's most infamous anti-freedom rip off companies!

You have got to be kidding!!!!

64 posted on 06/02/2004 8:49:32 PM PDT by demsux
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To: monkeywrench

I notice in the article dems are the only ones screaming about it.

Only because it's an election year. On this issue, it's all of government against the American workers.


65 posted on 06/02/2004 8:55:59 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING (He is faithful!)
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To: steplock

"Now under a new name (same ownership) registered in Bermuda so they pay NO U.S.A. TAXES AT ALL!!!!!!!!! "

That is not true. All corporations registered to do business in the United States pay income tax on their income earned in the United States. The purpose for incorporating in Bermuda is to avoid paying U.S. income tax on earnings from foreign operations. This would not be necessary if U.S. corporate tax rates were lowered to rates competitive with our foreign competitors.

Second, Accenture is a services company, and its greatest expense is compensation for its employees. Those employees are mostly American citizens who pay U.S. income tax, FICA and other payroll taxes.


66 posted on 06/02/2004 9:03:13 PM PDT by Poodlebrain
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To: Pukin Dog
Have you noticed that this site is quickly dividing itself into one camp that goes ape-$hit over headlines, ready to lose their heads at the slightest information, and another camp that spends a lot of time correcting and informing the first group?

It reminds me of he decline and fall of Usenet. We are collecting ever-larger numbers of people who don't know anything, and don't care to find out. As rdb3 put it, they don't care for facts that get in the way of the outrage.

67 posted on 06/02/2004 9:07:25 PM PDT by Nick Danger (With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.)
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To: rdb3; Poohbah

rdb3: Did you check out the reply five minutes previous to yours? [chuckle]


68 posted on 06/02/2004 9:14:46 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: WhiteGuy
Different branch huh?
Ok,
Believe whatever you wish.

More like different corporate entity. And that's not my "belief," but a "fact."

69 posted on 06/02/2004 9:16:29 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Poodlebrain
Facts? You dare present facts on this thread? Next thing I know, you'll be claiming that U.S. corporations are taxed on their world-wide income! [chortle]
70 posted on 06/02/2004 9:21:39 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Pukin Dog

Ain't that the truth. My personal favorite is, "I cannot prove it, but I know it's true . . . look it up yourself."


71 posted on 06/02/2004 9:24:05 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: shempy
Why don't people get it? First, Clinton sells us out to the Communist Chinese, now Bush is exposing us to the Bermudan Menace.

Hmmmm some choice; China or Bermuda; China or Bermuda.... I guess I'll take Bermuda so long as I don't have to wear the shorts and black socks.

72 posted on 06/02/2004 9:30:06 PM PDT by AFreeBird (your mileage may vary)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
...The project will use the latest technology, including biometrics, to identify people coming into the United States....

I think what they mean is using technology to identify people coming into the US through Ports of Entry, completely forgetting about the thousands who sneak in without presenting themselves for inspection...kinda like bailing a boat with a 2 foot hole in it with a 1 foot bucket....

All incentives for illegal immigration need to be taken away and violaters punished, that would stop a whole lot more unidentified people from coming into the US for less money....They seize all profits and proceeds from drug smugglers and sellers, why not seize all the assets from those that broke the law to get into the US ? What's the difference? Why reward people for breaking the law when they should be punished? No more free medical care, welfare, drivers licenses, public schools etc...disparate treatment....Both types of people are just trying to earn a living...LOL...

73 posted on 06/02/2004 9:30:55 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Pukin Dog
It's the freakin INTERNET; why don't people just use Google before going off?
I mean, DAMN.

This being the Internet doesn't help. My personal favorites in this regard are a poster who claimed that Walt Whitman was gay, on the basis that a Google search of walt+whitman+gay turned-up thousands of hits. I discovered that one of Whitman's biographers had the surname Gay. After I pointed that out, he dug deeper and found a grad student's term paper claiming the same.

Or the time some other bloke, when challenged, "found" a Power-Point presentation, AND CITED IT AS A SOURCE.

Just this morning, I nailed some "scholar" citing to an abstract of an article otherwise unavailable on the Web, that HE ADMITTED TO NOT HAVING READ.

In the hand of a feeble mind, Google is dangerous.

74 posted on 06/02/2004 9:36:04 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: hedgetrimmer
Can you say CAFTA?
It was conveniently signed this week.

I cannot let this pass. Please tell us what CAFTA has to do with this story. It's been a long day, and I need a good laugh.

75 posted on 06/02/2004 9:39:48 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Where I come from, it was always safer to assume that I didn't know shit and be careful, than to pretend I did and run into the ground admiring myself. Isn't there a saying that says it is best to say nothing and let people assume you are stupid , than to open your mouth and remove all doubt?

It is not a crime to not know something, but some people act like it is a crime to admit it. As far as I'm concerned, I'm here to learn stuff, not run my mouth. That's why I don't post much anymore unless the subject is airplanes, the military or war strategy. I even get those wrong on occasion. There is another thread where some genius is calling Bush a 'weak fool' of all things, for leaving a word out of a speech, as though Bush would have used the word, had the Freeper only called him up and told him what to do. I think sometimes we forget who we are, and that the president might not need our help ALL the time in order to get it right.

76 posted on 06/02/2004 9:54:23 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: WhiteGuy
Different branch huh? Ok, Believe whatever you wish.

You really don't know what you're talking about.

They were entirely different companies by the time of Enron. The consulting practice paid about $1 billion just to get the divorce, which was a bargain since the accounting firm was demanding $14 billion.

They were not only not affiliated with each other, they were bitter bitter enemies.

78 posted on 06/02/2004 10:08:09 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: VaBthang4

I hope you are right.


79 posted on 06/02/2004 10:11:27 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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