Do you REALLY want this finger on the button? (John Kerry gives Vietnam Vets the finger... AGAlN)

newsmax.com ^ | 6.03.04 | Mia T

[Mia T]

 

 

UNFIT:
taking the measure of a would-be commander-in-chief
WHY JOHN KERRY IS DANGEROUS FOR AMERICA

#3-sang-froid and the "nuclear" button

by Mia T, 6.03.04

 

 
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"Most powerful is he who has himself in his own power."

Seneca

 

"He that would govern others, first should be the master of himself."

Philip Massinger

"The sign of an intelligent people is their ability to control their emotions by the application of reason."

Marya Mannes

 

"A silly idea is current that good people do not know what temptation means.  This is an obvious lie.  Only those who try to resist temptation know how strong it is....  A man who gives in to temptation after five minutes simply does not know what it would have been like an hour later.  That is why bad people, in one sense, know very little about badness.  They have lived a sheltered life by always giving in." 

C.S. Lewis

Monday, May 31, 2004 10:53 p.m. EDT

Kerry 'Flips Off' Vietnam Vet

Former Congressman John Leboutillier reports on a Memorial Day confrontation between Sen. John Kerry and a fellow Vietnam veteran:

Democratic senator - and certain presidential nominee - John F. Kerry gave the middle finger to a Vietnam veteran at the Vietnam Memorial Wall on Memorial Day morning, NewsMax.com has learned.

Ted Sampley, a former Green Beret who served two full tours in Vietnam, spotted Kerry and his Secret Service detail at about 9:00 a.m. Monday morning at the Wall. Sampley walked up to Kerry, extended his hand and said, "Senator, I am Ted Sampley, the head of Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry, and I am here to escort you away from the Wall because you do not belong here."

At that point a Secret Service officer told Sampley to back away from Kerry. Sampley moved about 6 feet away and opened his jacket to reveal a HANOI JOHN T-shirt.

Kerry then began talking to a group of schoolchildren. Sampley then showed the T-shirt to the children and said, "Kerry does not belong at the Wall because he betrayed the brave soldiers who fought in Vietnam."

Just then Kerry - in front of the school children, other visitors and Secret Service agents - brazenly 'flashed the bird' at Sampley and then yelled out to everyone, "Sampley is a felon!"

Kerry was referring to an incident 12 years ago when Sampley confronted Sen. John McCain's chief aide, Mark Salter, in a Senate stairwell after McCain repeatedly offended POW families at a Senate POW hearing. Sampley, whose father-in-law at that time was MIA in Laos, followed Salter into the stairwell and, when they emerged, Salter had a bloody lip and a broken nose.

Sampley's group, Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry, has garnered huge national attention and has been featured in the New York Times, the Washington Post and on MSNBC's "Scarborough Country." Tens of thousands of Vietnam vets have registered their opposition to Kerry through Sampley's group.

Clearly Sampley has gotten under Kerry's skin once again.

 

Editor's note:

Breaking: The Real Story About John Kerry`s Vietnam Record -- Click Here!

[Mia T]

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[tdadams]

And it's a false charge that Sampley is a felon. The assault incident happened but he was not charged with a felony.

[Allegra]

I think Kerry has Turrets Syndrome of the fingers.

[The Mayor]

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[angkor]

It was quite revealing that Kerry's televised appearance at The Wall was so vacant and sanitized, given that there were several thousand Vietnam vets hanging around that immediate area on Monday morning. It was as if Kerry was there all by himself.

So it was obvious they'd cleared The Wall of the Rolling Thunder riff-raff, which says a great deal about Kerry's relations with his "Band Of Brothers".

(Contrast with Ben Nighthorse Campbell or Gen. Richard Meyers hopping on their Harleys and joining the fray).

[Quilla]

This morning on Fox & Friends, Brian Kilmeade stated someone took a picture of Kerry presenting the "finger" to Sampley. Since the photo hasn't surfaced yet, I suspect it was purchased by the Kerry campaign or taken by a Kerry supporter.

You've hit the nail on the head with this thread - UNFIT - says it all. Personally, I can't see how he's even qualified to be a gigolo.

[Mia T]

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[Mia T]

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[philman_36]

They call him Flipper, Flipper...

[Mia T]

bump!
This is the third in the "UNFIT" series.

Personally, I can't see how he's even qualified to be a gigolo.

Speaking as a woman, I don't get it.
Says something about teresa's judgment, self-image and taste, doesn't it?

[newsgatherer]

Thank you, I have been looking for verification of this now I can put it in this mornings update edition of Christian-news-in-maine.com

[TrueBeliever9]

Kerry is "impulsive"; a man governed by his flesh! His notable accomplishments include snowboarding and cycling (on his $6000 bike)! He is a child - a spoiled and undisciplined child! And, he has a sugarmommy to keep the pacifier in his mouth!

[wallcrawlr]

This was posted yesterday by the Sampley himself I think??...search and you can link the thread.

[Mia T]

thx. yes it was.

But the point of my post is the flash movie. (The newsmax story is background.)

[Mia T]

actually, you make a good point.

I probably shouldn't have listed newsmax in the header as the source; it may cause people to conclude that this is just a duplicate post.

[MeekOneGOP]

Can you believe there were some folks dissing this story because it:

• was posted by NewsMax
• was a second hand account

Rush Limbaugh brought this story up AND the one about the lady heckler at the VietNam Memorial:

"Are you honoring those that you spat on, Senator?" (paraphrased, from memory)

It's very credible ! imho

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Kerry Heckled at Memorial Day Event

Excerpt:

Sen. John Kerry's record as an anti-war protester came back to haunt him on Memorial Day when he was confronted by a heckler as he tried to pay his respects to a soldier killed in the Vietnam War.

"How much money are you getting to betray our POWs?" an unidentified middle-aged woman shouted as Kerry visited the Vietnam Veterans memorial on the Washington Mall.

"Are you paying tribute to all the people you spat on, Senator Kerry?" she added.

< /snip>

The heckling episode served to underscore the resentment many veterans still feel towards Kerry from his days as a leader with the Vietnam Veterans Against the War, when he teamed up with anti-American actress Jane Fonda.

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It looks like "Flipper" takes on a WHOLE new meaning now .....

Click on the Pic for "Flipper" (RealPlayer)
Click HERE for more Flip Flops

[MeekOneGOP]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh !!!!

[ALOHA RONNIE]

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VERIFICATION =

SAMPLEY: KERRY 'Bird' Shot May Have Been Captured on Film

http://www.Newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/6/2/160537.shtml

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[doug from upland]

Pinging. Excellent.

[Lady Jag]

Flipper

They call him Flipper, Flipper, faster than lightning,
No one you see, is more slippery than he,
And we know Flipper, lives in a world full of ego,
Lying and flipping and hard to believe!

No one you see, votes both ways like he,
The oh so wealthy and flippant Kerry.
Tricks he will do when voters appear,
And how they laugh when he is near!

They call him Flipper, Flipper, faster than lightning,
No one you see, votes both ways like he,
And we know Flipper, lives in a world full of ego,
Lying and flipping, that's John al Querry!

[Lady Jag]

Have you tried to dig up old photos of the al Querry on the net? They've vanished. Looks like he's covering his scat.

[ALOHA RONNIE]

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...Since I was a Co-Guest with TED SAMPLEY on BOB DORNAN's National Talk Radio Show a month ago about our Bi-Coastal Anti-KERRY Demonstrations (Mine was in Little Saigon)...

...I alerted the former Congressman about this KERRY the "Flipper" Story the day after Memorial Day. BOB's getting SAMPLEY on his Show to talk about this and I hope will be bringing it up during his own TV guestings.

Here's our Little Saigon Demonstration Thread with Photos:


29th Anniversary of the "Fall of Saigon" - RALLY FOR FREEDOM in Garden Grove (SUNDAY, May 2)

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1123635/posts

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[ALOHA RONNIE]

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Please tell us what you saw and heard about this on the FoX News Channel.

It's just EXCELLENT.

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[philman_36]

Flipper as in "flippin' the bird".
The "flip flop aspect" has an appropriate image already, IMO...

[ALOHA RONNIE]

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JOHN KERRY = Enemy of Vietnam Vets

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1320


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[girlscout]

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[pawdoggie]

I seem to recall that George McGovern flipped someone off during the '72 campaign. Must be an Ultra-Liberal thing.

[Lady Jag]

Flipper as in "flippin' the bird". The "flip flop aspect" has an appropriate image already, IMO...

Yeah, and, clearly, it is further proof that he can't get anything right.

[Geezerette]

Thank you, Mia T!

I agree with you about his "appeal" and qualifications as a gigolo! He makes my skin crawl. Even the "young" newsphotos of him are creepy.

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[alloysteel]

"Flippen the bird"

But do we know where that finger has BEEN?

I can't shake that image out of my head either.

[Mia T]

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UNFIT:
taking the measure of a would-be commander-in-chief
WHY JOHN KERRY IS DANGEROUS FOR AMERICA

#1-making the tough choices in a post-9/11 world

 

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[CHICAGOFARMER]

I was in the shower and missed it.

Another FR blogger heard it and sent me a post.

Here is what she said.

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Re: Kerry Fires Back at Swiftboat Veterans!

From SheLion | 06/03/2004 5:34:49 AM CDT read

I am SO happy! It's 6:50am, and I am watching Fox News and they were talking about Kerry and lawsuits and they showed that very picture you sent me! YAHOO!

About all the Vets "except two" are suing Kerry for saying that they support him.

Then, the two guys on Fox went on to tell about how Kerry flipped the bird the other day at another Vet, and also, some guy opened his shirt to Kerry to display a T Shirt saying "Kerry No Way."

The guys on Fox said "Kerry had tears in his eyes." oooooooo poor baby. I hope this is the END of this guy!!!!!! At least the truth is coming out!/

Woohoo!!! That is SO AWESOME!! (It wasn't my combo pic I'm sure, right??)

I am SO GLAD they are telling about the Vet at the wall! It's about time!

Star*

Swift boat veterans who support John F Kerry for President

http://images6.fotki.com/v83/photos/1/106521/398438/KERRYForFotki2-vi.jpg

[Mia T]

the 2nd in the series

 
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UNFIT:
taking the measure of a would-be commander-in-chief
WHY JOHN KERRY IS DANGEROUS FOR AMERICA

#2-understanding the job description

by Mia T, 5.17.04

"When bill clinton left office, not one young American in uniform was dying in a war anywhere in this world."

John Kerry

uspend disbelief for a minute. Pretend Kerry's dumb attempt at demagoguery is a serious pronouncement of policy.

What is Kerry's message? Is the premise true? Is the argument valid? And most important, what does this tell us about Kerry's fitness to serve?

THE MESSAGE

Kerry's message is implied, (a faintly outlined triptych of fallacy and falsehood, we shall soon see). It reduces to the following:

1. There exists an inverse relationship between the success of a commander-in-chief and the number of soldier deaths occurring under his watch.
   
2. By this measure, bill clinton was a successful commander-in-chief and George Bush is a failure.
   
3. Because John Kerry would operate under the bill clinton model, John Kerry would be a success by definition.

ANALYZING KERRY'S ANALYSIS

Simply put, Kerry's analysis suffers from--to borrow from Nancy Pelosi--a "shallowness," "an incompetence in terms of knowledge, judgment" and, yes, critical thinking.

Kerry's premise is false, and notwithstanding this, his thesis is easily disproved empirically.

FALSE PREMISE

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution

According to the U.S. Constitution, preserving, protecting and defending America is what the presidency is all about.

From this it follows that the measure of the success of a commander-in-chief is not inversely related to number of soldier deaths that result from a commander-in-chief protecting America but rather, the number of deaths -- both soldier and non-soldier -- that are caused by a commander-in-chief failing to protect America.

It is important to note that not all such deaths necessarily occur under that failed president's watch.

For example, not all deaths caused by clinton's repeated failure to act to protect America from the terrorists occurred under clinton's watch, witness the 2,899 deaths on September 11, 2001, and the ever-expanding number in the seemingly endless aftermath.

Achieving a low soldier mortality rate with a policy of artful battlefield-and-responsibility-avoidance is hardly the measure of commander-in-chief success.

Kerry's premise is, therefore, false, and exposes both Kerry's fundamental misunderstanding of the job of commander-in-chief and the lethal danger to a post-9/11 America that a Commander-in-Chief Kerry would pose.

THESIS EASILY DISPROVED EMPIRICALLY

Notwithstanding this, Kerry's thesis, itself, is belied by history. The obvious counterexamples: the presidencies of two of our most successful commanders-in-chief, Abe Lincoln, 562,130 deaths and FDR, 408,306.

Even if we apply the too-cute-by-half clintonesque Kerry semantic technicality, and limit the death count to those deaths coincident with the commander-in-chief's exit, the FDR counterexample still stands.

ASIDE: These transparent word games of Kerry and clinton derive from the same (if geographically disparate) provincial arrogance rooted in stupidity.

 

 

KERRY'S LETHAL DANGER TO A POST-9/11 AMERICA

Kerry's pronouncement, therefore, is more than simple... or even stupid... demagoguery. Kerry's pronouncement exposes Kerry's lack of historical perspective, Kerry's poor judgment, Kerry's critical-thinking deficiency, Kerry's fundamental misunderstanding of the job of commander-in-chief. It is a stark warning of the lethal danger to a post-9/11 America that a Commander-in-Chief Kerry would pose.

"At the time, '96, he [bin Laden] had committed no crime against America, so I did not bring him here because we had no basis on which to hold him, though we knew he wanted to commit crimes against America."

bill clinton

"The instant that second plane hit, I said to the person with whom I was speaking, 'Bin Laden did this.' I knew immediately. I know what this network can do."

bill clinton

"The War on Terror is less... is occasionally military but it's primarily an intelligence and law enforcement operation."

John Kerry

"The Bush Administration is so entralled by the idea of preemption and American military might. This is the consequence of the policy that regards legitimacy as largely a product of force and victory as primarily a triump of arms...

We truly should go to war as the last resort."

John Kerry

Both Kerry and clinton fail to understand that:

• a terrorist war requires only one consenting player
• defining bin Laden's acts of war as "crimes'' is a dangerous, anachronistic, postmodern conceit (It doesn't depend on what the meaning of the word "war" is) and amounts to surrender
• preemptive action, and even more so, preventative action, serve a necessary, critically protective, as well as offensive function in any war on terror.

The sorry endpoint of the massive, 8-year clinton blunder was, of course, 9/11 and the exponential growth of al Qaeda.

John Kerry and the Left will, by definition, reprise the failed, lethally dangerous clinton policy of denial and surrender.

I, therefore, urge anyone planning to vote for John Kerry to rethink, to reconsider. Your children's lives, if not civilization, itself, just may depend on it.

I'm a single-issue voter, as I guess must have become apparent.

I'm not a Republican. I'm not a conservative. I'm not a very great admirer of the president in many ways, but I think that my condition is... that this is an administration that wakes up every morning wondering how to make life hard for the forces of Jihad and how to make as hard as possible an unapologetic defense of civilization against this kind of barbarism... and though the Bush administration has been rife with disappointment on this and incompetent, I nonetheless feel that they have some sense of that spirit.

I don't get that... I don't get that feeling from anyone who even sought the Democratic nomination.

I would [therefore] have to vote for the reelection of President Bush.

Christopher Hitchens
Washington Journal, 6.01.04
C-SPAN

 

 

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[Mia T]

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[ALOHA RONNIE]

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Thank you for this CF, Good Job.

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[Boxsford]

Love the C.S. Lewis quote. It's worth repeating:

"A silly idea is current that good people do not know what temptation means. This is an obvious lie. Only those who try to resist temptation know how strong it is.... A man who gives in to temptation after five minutes simply does not know what it would have been like an hour later. That is why bad people, in one sense, know very little about badness. They have lived a sheltered life by always giving in."
C.S. Lewis

[jla]

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[BenLurkin]

He would have to be convicted of the felony before the 'accusation' was true, IMO.

[Mia T]

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[philman_36]

But do we know where that finger has BEEN?
Ya never know. Scratch and sniff?

Even in his own estimation he doesn't measure up. I wonder if Theresa knows.

He even roots for W!

And wants four more years for him!

[Mudboy Slim]

Kerry IS Unfit to be Commander-in-Chief...MUD

[Wolverine]

Bump this to the top.

[Mia T]

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[Mia T]

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[WorkingClassFilth]

Completely disturbing.

Kerry, as we know him now, is hollow to a degree I don't think even krinton achieved. At least krinton was pathological. Seems to me, even a nest full of snakes in the skull qualifies as having something to call a persona. Kerry, OTOH, lumbers and creaks along through the political landscape like a zombie from the 'Night of the Living Dead.'

As it stands, he isn't running on his Lt. Governor's record with Dukakis (good reason, that) and he's not really touting his 20 years sucking the federal teat in the Senate either. All we really have is his proxies cheering their lungs out about the Viet Nam heroism of this freak of nature (and hissing their Bush hatred on the intake breath) and then, of course, his own constant and idiotic references to the same ('...this lamp-post and hamburger remind me of my service in Viet Nam...').

In distilled substance, he offers nothing but criticisms of Bush and proposes stolen and repainted policies Bush is already pursuing. Well, of course, he IS offering the usual grab-bag of leftist boondoggles and wealth theft schemes, but in sum, the man himself is nothing, he offers nothing, and most staggeringly, he answers nothing -at all - ever. He is, in effect, a ghostly no-man, a wraith, a ghastly mannequin that is running for President.

The press blithely goes along with the charade as they did with krinton's sexual assualts and politely look the other way. 'Don't you know it's rude to ask any substantive questions of a Democratic candidate?'

We all know that he actually is alive (despite his uncanny resemblance to Frankenstein's monster) because Ter-A-sah wrinkles her nose is disgust when he touches her. Somewhere, deep inside the appearance of an embalmed ectomorph from an anatomy lab, we all know that a wriggling knot of eels thrashes about in the vacuum of his empty soul. What are they feeding on? What will they feed on if he gains the White House?

He is like the candidate Greg Stilson from Stephen King's book 'The Dead Zone.'