Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: Lost Highway
What I am maintaining is that there is no law that will win the culture war.

Hey, I was a one-time staff member of a church directing evangelism and outreach, so I know where you're coming from...And let's face it, it has a biblical underpinning:

"They triumphed over him [the accuser] by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony" (Rev. 12:11)

But Rev. 12:11 doesn't stop there. It adds, "they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death."

Why? Because the Body of Christ follows their leader, who did not love His life so much as to shrink from death--even death on a cross (Phil. 2:8). Jesus didn't rescue us spiritually from afar; He did bodily. He committed a social act of rescue by carrying a cross and then being nailed to it. And He expects us to pick up our own crosses on behalf of the "least of these."

Folks can say no laws will win the culture war. But so what? No single proclamation of the gospel will win the spiritual war or the kingdom wars afoot, either.

But ultimately, accumulatively, the Kingdom does advance by both word anddeed;

Don't hold the bar so high for other folks' worldview ("no law will win the culture war") and then think that a low bar of a smattering of testimonials is going to win the spiritual war.

Let us not forget the "batting averages" of the original apostles: Only one died a natural death (John).

25 posted on 06/03/2004 2:46:40 PM PDT by Colofornian (What Christ marries--the Gospel & kingdom action--we should not divorce!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies ]


To: Colofornian
Let us not forget the "batting averages" of the original apostles: Only one died a natural death (John).

And they died because of the "word of god and the testimony of Jesus." I suppose we are disagreeing about what that includes.

32 posted on 06/04/2004 5:38:23 AM PDT by Taliesan (fiction police)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies ]

To: Colofornian
Folks can say no laws will win the culture war. But so what? No single proclamation of the gospel will win the spiritual war or the kingdom wars afoot, either.

Oh, I see. This is where we disagree. You actually think WE WIN THE CULTURE WAR. Whew.

Not only do I say no law will win the culture war, I say that the gospel will not win the culture war. The bible clearly teaches the course of human society will be from bad to worse, just as it was in the days of Noah. The condition of the world's culture at the end of time is described in Revelation: steeped in the occult, driven by commerce, guilty of the blood of the saints.

Draw a straight line between now and that portrait and you have the course of your future "culture war".

So, in summary, here is the rest of human history: Jesus won the spiritual war, for all who find Him. The church loses the culture war, and wins the spiritual war one person at a time. The culture kills more and more Christians. Jesus comes back, and the culture goes to hell. Then, there is new heaven and new earth.

How is that "culture war" working out for you, by the way?

34 posted on 06/04/2004 5:52:12 AM PDT by Taliesan (fiction police)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson