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STANEK: Abortion Monsters, Inc.
The Illinois Leader ^ | 6/1/04 | Jill Stanek

Posted on 06/03/2004 7:27:09 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: brbethke

Monsters.inc = the ultimate deal with the devil


41 posted on 06/04/2004 5:36:30 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Polls - Proof that when the Main Stream Media wants your opinion, they will give it to you)
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To: Sursum Corda

After re-reading this, I agree, the writer makes some sharp points; and I'm inclined to interpret his last comments as sardonic humor. But humor doesn't always come across as intended on the internet, and I wanted to flag the comment with a warning that it could be interpreted as an implied threat. I would hate to be on the same list as James Kopp or Eric Rudolph.


42 posted on 06/04/2004 5:44:00 AM PDT by megatherium
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To: gcruse

Well, look at it this way. Do you really think that the pro-abortionists want abortion to be safe, legal and RARE? If it were rare, say 1% of women had abortions, instead of about a third, then it would be an aberration instead of a commonplace; women who had abortions would be aberrant and it would be far easier to persuade the public that it was unnnecessary, and to ban it.

Married, chaste women don't have many abortions.

Mrs VS


43 posted on 06/04/2004 7:23:22 AM PDT by VeritatisSplendor
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To: MHGinTN
[ Democrat leaders like Harkin, Boxer, Kennedy, clinton, Feinstein, Murray, etc. long ago realized the unborn were alive human beings. ]

If only, abortion aborted most democrat familys babies robbing the next generation of future democrats, then I could see light ahead in the tunnel. But, alas, the democrats are IMPORTING their next generation of democrats from accross the border that are here making even more babies that are NOT aborted, because they are new to "true democracy" and don't know of its slavery yet..

Democracy is the road to socialism. Karl Marx

Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism. V.I. Lenin

44 posted on 06/04/2004 7:59:53 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: ronnieb
Well, I'd like to hear the "intelligent" side of the argument that says it is okay to plunge a knife into the skull of an 8 mo old fetus.

Don't hold your breath.

45 posted on 06/04/2004 8:17:26 AM PDT by conservonator (Blank by popular demand)
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To: Dec31,1999
It's true. Sharia law is coming. Ready?

Over 30,000,000 Americans have been murdered since abortion was regularized in 1973. We're not as ready to repel those who would impose Sharia as we could be. Thanks you Murder inc.

46 posted on 06/04/2004 8:23:38 AM PDT by conservonator (Blank by popular demand)
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To: Cicero; afraidfortherepublic; AlbionGirl; anniegetyourgun; Aquinasfan; Archangelsk; A-teamMom; ...

Pro-Life, Pro-Baby ping...


47 posted on 06/04/2004 8:27:56 AM PDT by cgk (Rumsfeld: Our task, your task... is to try to connect the dots before something happens.)
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To: opinionator; Alamo-Girl; backhoe; Woahhs; Victoria Delsoul; William Wallace; Bryan; aristeides; ...
"If you examine my remarks, you will see that I neither argued for nor against abortion." opinionater ... I don't have a problem with reading comprehension. I read your comments as defending the 'status quo'. That makes you an apologist (as in apologia) for the holocaust running 1.2 million serial killings annually.

You want calm in the face of a holocaust, reason in the face of insane inhumane slaughter. I'd say that reveals a lot about you and your perspective. Are you so dead spiritually that you have not the ability to be outraged at the evil slaughter of innocent alive sensing children purposely pulled from the protection and life support of the placenta each built for their earliest ages of their inidividual lifetime? Take your calm and stuff it where the sun doesn't shine ... I'm not the least bit interested in your brand of reason, in your dissembled serving of rational. Readers can easily see your 'reason' is aimed at an agenda laden rationale which sustains the current kill process.

Perhaps you are so dense that you do not comprehend the service you offer to the holocaust of infant slaughter. I don't intend to give you the benefit of doubt after reading your smarmy inferences to other posters (looking like purposeful diversions, to me). I accept the moniker of zealot. I am one, where the endangered little ones are discussed.

The democrat party wants so badly for the American people to disconnect the democrat party from their service to the abortion slaughter. Where will the democrats turn when the American people awaken to the evil the democrat party has chosen to serve in order to empower their vote potential through the abortion blood of innocent alive children?

Fifteen years ago, perhaps there was room for calm deliberation of the abortion on demand blight. With the democrat party purposeful defense of partial birth infanticide (and fetal tissue harvesting for profit), the time for unemotional discussion has passed. The democrat party is now purposely supporting and defending an evil so heinous it must garner outrage in order to strip bare the rhetoric of dissembling people like you who try so hard to obfuscate the facts and divert the discussion.

Your technique of diversion is not obscure at FR. We see flourishes like yours often, with serial killing apologists sneakily addressing the emotion or 'color' of pro-life posters' comments. Jill Stanek has seen with her own eyes the evil you assert must be considered with calm, must be discussed rationally, must be addressed as if the process has some redeeming quality that you can uncover if only there were no outrage over the slaughter. That smacks of the democrat's desire to wiggle out from behind their purposeful support and defense of this holocaust which has gotten them so many fear and hate driven votes.

There is nothing reasonable about partial birth infanticide for profit and votes. There should not be calm to be found when the horrific truth about politicial manipulation of life and death is exposed. What would we Americans be if such an horrible slaughter for empowerment of politicians activates only calm discussion?

If a person wants the current slaughter to continue, calm disconnected discussion aides the status quo. If the heinous truth of this slaughterfest promoted by the democrat party garners only rational debate, the hearts behind the debate are dead to the truth of what the democrat party has so consciously promoted and defended with obfuscation, manipulation, and open lies even on the floor of the U.S. Senate!

Serial killing of alive, growing individual human beings is not something to contemplate with standoffish calm. The promoters of abortion on demand have too long succeeded in focusing America's attention upon the woman giving life support while completely disenfranchising the alive growing child because they support the unopposed killing of those disenfranchised beings. Imagine what would have been accomplished regarding the heinous practice of slavery had the nation bowed to your premise of only calm, rational, reasoned debate.

Why change a societal behavior feature if there is no outrage or disgust quotient connected to the behavior? If a behavior is benign, it begs no change or intrusion in a Constitutional Republic. As long as your ilk can divert attention from the aliveness of the little ones being slaughtered on demand, there is only a benign behavior, a supreme court granted right not found in the Constitution. BUT those beings killed at such an horrific rate are alive individuals! If a behavior is wrong, and causes the continued slaughter of 1.2 individual live fellow humans, THAT deserves outrage to this ol' boy, especially when there are sneaky apologists cruising discussion sites trying to divert and defuse the emotional discussions. It is revealing that abortion apologists cannot agree with the necessity to see the horrible truth because it bespeaks their desire for the status quo of 1.2 million serial killings per year to continue.

48 posted on 06/04/2004 10:37:50 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN

BTTT!!!!!!


49 posted on 06/04/2004 11:04:29 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: MHGinTN
Despite the incredulity of some of this thread's posters, Stanek probably isn't overstating the case at all. Not only does Planned Barrenhood covertly and overtly encourage teens to have sex (even the Girl Scouts are now endorsing Planned Parenthood sex education seminars), they're actively promoting sexual predation.

Child Predators:EXPOSING THE PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN PLANNED PARENTHOOD, THE NATIONAL ABORTION FEDERATION AND MEN WHO SEXUALLY ABUSE UNDERAGE GIRLS:

. . .Additionally, some Planned Parenthood and National Abortion Federation facilities actually maintain web sites and produce advertising materials telling minor girls that their sexual activity can be covered up by patronizing one of their family planning clinics.30

Earlier in this report we listed a few of the factors driving the epidemic of adult men sexually exploiting underage girls, but what our investigation has shown is that the single most important factor is the willingness of Planned Parenthood and the National Abortion Federation to conceal these crimes.

50 posted on 06/04/2004 12:04:35 PM PDT by Caleb1411
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To: MHGinTN

Well said.


51 posted on 06/04/2004 2:31:32 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: wagglebee
....one of Planned Parenthood’s objectives is for girls and women to engage in illicit sex as often as possible, so as to increase the odds they’ll get pregnant and have to abort.

Truer words were never spoken.

These are people who believe abortion should be legal at any time during pregnancy for any reason, and fetal rights should be denied no matter what. From what I’ve seen, most of these “believers” profit in some way off of abortion.

A partial list of who these "believers" are and how they "profit."

A) As the author pointed out, Planned Parenthood itself. There's good money to be made being a bird-dog. Call it a finder's fee, a spiff, a commission, etc.

B) The abortionist. For obvious reasons. He or she gets paid for his or her "services".

C) The "man" or boy who gets the girl pregnant. He gets his rocks off and avoids 18 years of child support.

D) The pro-abort politician. Again for obvious reasons. The more abortions, the more votes.

52 posted on 06/04/2004 5:45:56 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: wagglebee
But the day is drawing closer when America will understand the devil they’re dealing with.

The day is also drawing closer when women in America will understand the special gift God has endowed them with. And it is this understanding that will cause them to realize that by acquiescing to sex outside of wedlock, they are willingly reducing themselves to serving as sperm banks.

53 posted on 06/04/2004 5:50:19 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all)
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To: wagglebee
During a recent interview, I mentioned that I believe one of Planned Parenthood's objectives is for girls and women to engage in illicit sex as often as possible, so as to increase the odds they'll get pregnant and have to abort.

The saddest thing in the world is the fact that this is quite probably true.

Don't forget that one of Margret Sanger's pet projects was eugenics, or the selective breeding of humans, also a pet theory of NAZI Germany.

Mark

54 posted on 06/04/2004 5:57:20 PM PDT by MarkL (The meek shall inherit the earth... But usually in plots 6' x 3' x 6' deep...)
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To: cavan; gcruse

Head in the sand TROLL ALERT!!!!!


55 posted on 06/04/2004 5:59:48 PM PDT by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: opinionator
Have a calm cool rational discussion on this:


56 posted on 06/04/2004 6:33:00 PM PDT by Palladin (Proud to be a FReeper!)
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To: MHGinTN

Thanks!


57 posted on 06/04/2004 10:40:34 PM PDT by 185JHP ( "Who is this King of Glory? The Lord strong and mighty, invincible in battle.")
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To: MHGinTN

Thanks!


58 posted on 06/04/2004 10:41:14 PM PDT by 185JHP ( "Who is this King of Glory? The Lord strong and mighty, invincible in battle.")
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To: MHGinTN

Thanks.


59 posted on 06/05/2004 4:36:10 AM PDT by PGalt (The standard of all value is life.)
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To: opinionator; MHGinTN; Alamo-Girl; marron; Diamond
You are obviously too emotionally involved in the topic to carry on a rational conversation.

There is nothing "rational" about a conversation that is willfully blind to primary facts -- that is, to the wanton slaughter of innocent human lives. It is irrational to engage in discourse on such terms. For the parties would have to tacitly agree that the pre-born are neither human nor alive in order to engage in such a conversation. And while the parties might be inclined to accept this tacit bargain, the acceptance would still be at odds with the reality. Their argument would be premised on a [tacit] logical impossibility and thus would be worthless.

There is an argument here that is not based on pure emotion.

60 posted on 06/05/2004 10:06:23 AM PDT by betty boop (The purpose of marriage is to civilize men, protect women, and raise children. -- William Bennett)
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