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To: Mulder
Granholm is trying to run from her gun grabbing past(Marched with Million Moms in 00). I don't trust her one bit, but she's signed two non-hyped pro-2a bills. That said, this is a big one. One problem here is that criminal law and game law are in two different sections, and has caused some contradictions(and I believe game law carries weight).

This helped clear that up. I know people who have gotten CPLS strictly because of bears.

5 posted on 06/04/2004 8:28:37 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Today we did what we had to do. They counted on America being passive. They were wrong.” - Reagan)
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To: Dan from Michigan
Granholm is trying to run from her gun grabbing past(Marched with Million Moms in 00). I don't trust her one bit, but she's signed two non-hyped pro-2a bills

I seem to recall that last year someone asked her if she's made any mistakes. She replied that she was wrong when she thought the CCW law would result in a wild west scenario.

I thought that very intersting that she would go out of her way to say she was wrong about gun control.

It looks like they've learned (at least the ones with an IQ) like gun control is a losing issue for them. But like you said, we shouldn't trust them anymore since in their hearts they still support it.

Forunately for folks in Michigan, the legislature took the offensive and have put a couple of good gun bills on her desk.

Other Republicans should learn a lesson from them, and start pushing the issue in other states.

Make the dem governors either sign pro-RKBA bills or make them veto them, so that a Republican can use that to run against them.

6 posted on 06/04/2004 8:43:24 AM PDT by Mulder (Those who would give up liberty for temporary security, deserve neither -- Ben Franklin)
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BTW - Only 6 people voted against it.

In the senate, Irma Clark-Coleman and Martha Scott, both from Detroit voted against it. As did notorious gun grabber Liz Brater and Gilda Jacobs.

In the house, Steve Tobocman and Aldo Vagnozzi voted against it. Tobocman is the only white rep out of Detroit(and in a tough primary). Vagnozzi has a tough district in Farmington Hills and is beatable.

Reps. Vagnozzi and Tobocman, having reserved the right to explain their protest against the passage of the bill, made the following statement:

"Mr. Speaker and members of the House:

I voted no on House Bill 4867 because the bill would prohibit the Department of Natural Resources from stopping people with loaded pistols or concealed weapons from coming into state parks, beaches and campgrounds. Our state parks should be a place where people can go with their friends, family and children to relax and be free from worry. Our citizens should not have to worry whether or not the person next to them has a loaded gun in their picnic basket."

7 posted on 06/04/2004 9:05:26 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Today we did what we had to do. They counted on America being passive. They were wrong.” - Reagan)
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To: Dan from Michigan
I know people who have gotten CPLS strictly because of bears.

If I were getting attacked by a bear, I'd rather have my Serbu BFG-50 than any TWO of my pistols.

10 posted on 06/04/2004 1:43:15 PM PDT by George Smiley (It amazes me how easily John Kerry can straddle both sides of the fence for any given issue.)
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