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To: mcg1969
Yes, Cosby is right that education is important and kids should master English — but they should also be taught that vernacular black culture has worth. Certainly Zora Neale Hurston, who wrote such vernacular classics as Their Eyes Were Watching God — understood that. “Zora chose to write in dialect because she thought the language of ordinary, rural, self-educated black folk was beautiful,” Valerie Boyd, author of the Hurston biography Wrapped in Rainbows told me. “She thought this language — the language of her youth, her primary language as a storyteller — was poetic and rich and full of vivid imagery and worthy of being celebrated and immortalized in literature.”

So let's see . . . when poor Blacks use rural Southern dialect liberals love it and conservatives scream at them to get an education. When poor rural Southern whites use rural Southern dialect conservatives love it and liberal laugh at them because they don't speak proper English.

Does this sum it up?

10 posted on 06/04/2004 8:54:19 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (I'm a Noachide . . . if **everyone** doesn't hate me, I'm not doing my job! :-))
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To: Zionist Conspirator
When poor rural Southern whites use rural Southern dialect conservatives love it

I guess I've never noticed that. The other stuff you mention, I agree with.

11 posted on 06/04/2004 8:58:03 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (You can see it coming like a train on a track.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
"Does this sum it up?"

No. I don't follow you.

14 posted on 06/04/2004 9:17:42 AM PDT by subterfuge (Liberalism is, as liberalism does.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
When poor rural Southern whites use rural Southern dialect conservatives love it

Senator Foghorn Leghorn is a 'Rat. Who 'loves' that?

15 posted on 06/04/2004 9:20:32 AM PDT by Post Toasties
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To: Zionist Conspirator
There is black southern speech that does not leave out half the words and does not slur the rest and drop most tenses. It can have a beautiful sound. It lives in parts of Mississippi and Virginia.

There is white southern speech that seems to multiply syllables and is difficult to speak unpolitely. It too has a beautiful sound. It lives in Alabama and Southern Mississippi.

But there is also black southern speech that is near unintelligible as English and there is white southern speech that is the same. This speech, black or white sounds worse than uneducated. It is crude. It is vile.

And there is Boston. It's hard to tell if that speech sounds uneducated or not. I can't tell if Urdu is uneducated just by hearing it either.

28 posted on 06/04/2004 11:08:36 AM PDT by ThanhPhero (Ong lam hanh huong di La Vang)
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