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Please, no more 1960s
The Guardian ^ | 6/9/04 | Jonathan Freedland

Posted on 06/10/2004 9:21:50 AM PDT by qam1

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To: Two-Bits

I direct you to post #57, please..... ;-)


61 posted on 06/11/2004 8:34:26 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (I was there! I passed Reagan's casket 6/10 3:40 PM!)
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To: King Prout

I prefer living in the present. I don't want the 1960s in any of its permutations thanks.


62 posted on 06/11/2004 8:37:22 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: qam1
Thanks for the ping, qam1!

And for what it's worth, I have many a Boomer friend and family member who were NOT the free-base radicals that the counterculture was, and I thank the Boomer who reminded us that the young men in Vietnam were also of that generation : they were in no form or fashion interested in being the criminals that the Hippies and Free-Love dopes were...and I wish I could make every one of those pukes who spit on the returning vets and called them "baby-killers" pay for the evil they did.

I just want our more conservative and right-minded boomers to understand that as a Gen-Reaganite (thank you CinnamonGirl!), I am among those who have been forever under the shadow of people who are so obvious in their hypocrisy : they scorned the traditionalism and expectations of the WWII generation, but then turned around and got their noses out of joint when MY generation didn't march lock-step in their footsteps. And what REALLY pissed me off was when they expressed pleasure and praise for actions I took that they percieved to have been in honor of theirs. In my case, I was praised more than once for choosing anthropology because I 'listened to my betters and sought to achieve the same level of enlightenment they pioneered.' See, they thought they invented anthropology as well!! And you know what the truth was? 1) I love history and 2) I went into anthropology because I fell in love with Ancient Egypt. I wanted to get into a profession that would get me where I could be among the artifacts and study them. That was all.

I will try in the future be more specific in the group of Boomers I am aiming my criticism at. Perhaps a simple "Elite Boomers" would suffice? There are a good many Boomers who encouraged me without forcing me to view the world through the prism they inherited from their parents, and there were even some who sympathised with my viewpoint that I didn't want to be lumped in with them.

But I also don't mind getting some Boomers' goats by using the phrase GenReagan. If it pisses them off when I invoke the name of the Greatest President of the 20th century, a man I will now say is in the ranks of Washington and Lincoln, then I will know what side of the political spectrum they fall, and will save my mockery for them.

63 posted on 06/11/2004 2:14:06 PM PDT by Alkhin (He thinks I need keeping in order)
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To: Two-Bits

I agree.

It's like saying all Gen X and Yers are self mutilators and nihilists.

The one thing that is undeniably true about the Boomers (1957 here):

We are the largest population bubble the west has ever seen and that alone makes us seem overwhleming and causes resentment...some vaild.

Second, we were the first generation to truly have something of a leisure upbringing till Vietnam. Middle-middle and upper-middle class kids today would have been considered rich kids in the 60s and early 70s....a point that escapes these youngbloods.


64 posted on 06/11/2004 2:41:01 PM PDT by wardaddy (This is it. We either win and prevail or we lose and get tossed into that dustbin W mentioned!)
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To: Billthedrill

It's the nature of the boom itself. You are surrounded by millions of people who think just like you do, it makes you think you are right. You are Special. You are The Consumer. Your wants and needs run the economy. Everything is tailored for You.

If there were fewer of them, they naturally wouldn't have been so annoying and self-righteous.


65 posted on 06/11/2004 2:56:18 PM PDT by stands2reason (Everyone's a self-made man -- but only the successful are willing to admit it.)
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To: qam1; Pokey78
Anyone know the freeper ping list record?

I'm going to guess that the largest "opt-in" pinglist is Pokey78's Mark Steyn pinglist.

Pokey -- how many do you have now?

66 posted on 06/11/2004 3:04:52 PM PDT by stands2reason (Everyone's a self-made man -- but only the successful are willing to admit it.)
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To: steve8714

Your generation may bankrupt this country but it was the "greatest generation" that gave us the New Deal and the Great Society and led country down the road to hell faster and farther than any generation before or since.

I might add that your generation also voted in President Reagan who did more to reverse that trend than any president before or since.

So it's not really a generational thing, each generation has those can be held up to be paragons of freedom or communism, it's just that some of every generation seems to want to suck off the gubbermint tit and there's never a lack of a commie pol that'll give it to 'em.


67 posted on 06/11/2004 3:06:25 PM PDT by Proud_texan
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To: oprahstheantichrist
Well here is an article on it

http://www.sltrib.com/2004/Jun/06102004/thursday/174120.asp

For his money, Gillon says Oprah Winfrey embodies it all: "In many ways, she is the most appropriate cover girl for the boomer generation. First of all, (she represents) the women's movement of the '70s, a most important social movement. She's African American. She benefited from the civil rights struggle. And she has perfected this therapeutic culture (in which) we are fascinated with ourselves.

68 posted on 06/11/2004 6:49:33 PM PDT by qam1 (Tommy Thompson is a Fat-tubby, Fascist)
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To: stands2reason
I'm going to guess that the largest "opt-in" pinglist is Pokey78's Mark Steyn pinglist.

Pokey -- how many do you have now?

454 and counting.

69 posted on 06/11/2004 9:39:51 PM PDT by Pokey78 (quidnunc: A one person crusade to destroy Mark Steyn.)
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To: DumpsterDiver
"You kids all think you invented sex!"

The follies of youth! ;^)

You mean.... Dang! I thought I was on to something... Actually I thought it was quite an achievement, I mean being that I was all alone at the time... (sigh...)

70 posted on 06/11/2004 9:45:30 PM PDT by Hatteras
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To: Hatteras
I mean being that I was all alone at the time... (sigh...)

Not even a magazine with purty pictures in it?

71 posted on 06/11/2004 9:58:56 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: DumpsterDiver
"Not even a magazine with purty pictures in it?"

Well, there was Farrah fawning over me from her perch on the back of my bedroom door...

Look at that smile, she STILL wants me!

72 posted on 06/11/2004 10:05:55 PM PDT by Hatteras
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To: qam1

Muttly would just like to point out that
"the 1960's" started in 1960...and went on to '66-67 or so...and the ascot/driving-glove-wearing having fun fishing and shooting and general "expansion budget" great times...old American culture still here and available...all the '50s well-known fun stuff ...well...we were still doing it. THAT was the 1960s...unless everyone has forgotten.

You guys watch too much t.v. We typing dogs remember...though.


73 posted on 06/11/2004 10:27:48 PM PDT by PoorMuttly (""Let us speak courteously, deal fairly, and keep ourselves armed and ready." - T. Roosevelt)
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