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To: jerseygirl
Sure, really by subbing to this place i was paranoid about my goddamn house being searched by men in black, but this one post caught my eye then i got the hell out of there, here goes:




First of all and least important my belly dance post and God is God
seems to have stirred some people globally. I received praise, hate
notes, "we will stone you now I have spoken to the Clerics and so
forth. All irrelavant to the current conversation but interesting
nonetheless. Shameless plugs globalislamicmedia.com and women's group
globalislamicmedia4women in Yahoo. Now since I have come out of
hiding since several attempt on my life, I can post once more. So...


> - If AQ has WMD in the US, why have we seen the comparatively "low-
> tech" attacks? Just today, the threats were made against
Airplanes.
> Why just threaten to blow up a few planes (or drive them into
> selected US targets?) WMD would make so much more of
a "statement"
> and accomplish the obvious objective of getting the US to pull out
of
> Iraq, and probably the ME in general. (Of course, much of the ME
> would probably cease to exist if this were to ever happen. The
> current Administration has already publicly stated - via official
> doctrin - that we WILL retaliate with nuclear weapons if we are
ever
> hit with WMD. So, what does it gain?)

Good point, major flaws. Point one, is that the cells in place
didn't just waltz into the U.S. and MANY of them are not Arabic and
some of them are not even Muslim. Some have worked as commercial
pilots for over 3-4 years, or have become sympathizers to the Iraq
cause. Like Mujahideen or Jihad enthusiasts, people can be bribed or
promised huge sums of money to be left with their families for a
suicide mission. I could spend pages on the psychology of this. But
the British MI5 and FBI and CIA are not exactly sleeping. They have
infiltrated terrorists groups and monitor much of the communication.
The AQ has taken the stance of letting them live and being sure they
get false information, but have the illusion they have the inside
stuff. A double agent is a worse problem for them in that he or she
is a hybrid mercenary selling information and never really can be
defined as to which side they are on. I have been accused of this.
Working for the CIA, posing as a terrorists, and gathering
information.

In the real world, some of my closest friends and dearest
relationships are with Muslims. For one, I have the advantage of
seeing past all the propaganda, and who is doing what to who. The
warning to avoid U.S. citizens and transportation is not a high sign
to help the U.S. or Britian find cells or stop attacks. The nukes in
place are far too valuable to be even communicated about by any
other means than personal contact or mail.

EOM and Daleel, although in the outline from the highest AQ are not
heavies in the terrorist world. And EOM if you are reading this,
know for a fact that the U.S. and Brits are due for a little more
serious sabre rattling. But EOMs and Daleel don't say, because they
don't know.

You can retaliate if you know which group did it. Let's say AQ does
it, boom , boom, boom. Okay who are you going to nuke? And how many
civilians will die and how much contamination will there be. What
are you going to do? Nuke Baghdad? Better move your troops out first.
How about Libya, or Pakistan, or North Korea. There are WMDs in the
U.S. I could post this as a tip to either the CIA or FBI board and I
would get a gut laugh if any response at all.

If I knew the info of who, what, why, when, where - I would end up
on a box, with a bag in my hand and a bare light socket in my hand.
No thanks. A very bad hair day.

>
> - We'd appreciate hearing a bit more about the "Cave of Darkness"
> and "plan 10". So far, what we have read strains credibility.
> Perhaps you can contribute some dialogue here to get the Americans
to
> start believing this is "real" vs. the fantasy we currently view
it
> as. (After all, "Cave of Darkness" was threatened over a year ago
if
> memory serves me right, and so far we are all here and doing just
> fine).

Cave of Darkness. Well, this is Daleel's favorite diatribe. This is
hooked to an alledged series of nukes which can be watched from
satellite and will plunge the UK and US into complete destruction.
I was told once there is a series of about 10 steps to all this and
a very detailed plan of execution to each. This will included a
nuked Camp David (doesn't anyone ever wonder why presidents flee to
Camp David at the drop of a nuclear threat), White House destruction,
blast in New York, one in Texas, and so forth. LA is a target, Vegas
is a target, and the intelligence people are so easily distracted.
Example, Arabs are not stupid. They can proclaim watch those planes
and then bring in a nuke by Wonderbread Van.

You are all there and doing just fine, because when security goes
up, and it is just too tight to set off the Big Plan, the AQ just
say, okay, not today. It will happen with little warning. The real
hit will not be proceeded with an Osama warning, it will be followed
by an Osama declaration of victory for the Muslim world in Jihad.
The opposite of what the intelligent groups are planning on.


>
> - What is the timetable for this "imminent" attack with WMD? I've
> personally read far more intense threats than the ones you are
> relaying here literally for almost 3 years now..all claiming that
the
> US would be hit "soon". Yet, here we are, with no WMD attack on
US
> soil. Why?

Before the elections is a key window for the attacks. The AQ feels
that Spain was a great triumph and a pretty indicitave sign that a
U.S. hit, as well as the assassination of the major government set
up in Iraq, and several new in process plots, will kill Bush's
credibility with the public and we will watch is barely 50% rating
plunge to the 20s and 30s and another candidate, not Kerry, will
step forward with my favorite line "Stop the War." and the American
public will by that time be totally fed up and elect a president who
will do just that. The UK and American inteligence are about as
accurate in predicting terrorist attacks as your local weatherman is
in predicting the weather. In London, some bloke gets on the tely
and says clear skies today while I push down the window of my flat
and feel raindrops on my hand.

So, every holiday, at the burial of Reagan, as if the terrorist
would take a private plan with missiles ringing the capital and try
to Kamakazi the ex-prez's coffin, we get an alert. Group minds, yes
they will do it when the security checking is the highest.

No. I think not. AQ and Taliban are not complete idiots. Some of
them have been noted to actually be able to read and write and even
monitor UK and American news.

Aljernaan the Voice


>
> You do seem to be well-educated, and I commend you for your
> informative and literate posts. Far better than the EOM blather
> which to me has ZERO credibility. At least you seem like you have
a
> message to deliver, and do so eleoquently and with conviction.
>
> I would very much appreciate any additional insight you can
provide.
>
> Respectfully,

That is some of what I know. There is not enough there to result in
any immediate arrest of cells or in any serious damage to the Jihad
cause. I do not believe in violence, but I do beieve there needs to
be a resolution here. In American's case it is a simile for
possessing the largest "member" and waving it around at the
seemingly impotent Arabs. And of course the Muslim world is saying
put it away, we have all seen it, yes you can crush palaces with it
and blow up women and children, but isn't there a brain about 3 feet
about that that you should be using instead.

Aly
1,510 posted on 06/16/2004 12:04:30 PM PDT by silentwatcher
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To: silentwatcher

re:

This will include a
nuked Camp David (doesn't anyone ever wonder why presidents flee to
Camp David at the drop of a nuclear threat), White House destruction,
blast in New York, one in Texas, and so forth. LA is a target, Vegas
is a target, and the intelligence people are so easily distracted.
Example, Arabs are not stupid. They can proclaim watch those planes
and then bring in a nuke by Wonderbread Van.


The last line caught my attention, is consistent with AQ's wanting to buy trucks, and is consistent with info on Jill's site about transporting nukes in small trucks, using speedboats.


1,513 posted on 06/16/2004 12:10:54 PM PDT by jerseygirl
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To: silentwatcher
"...paranoid...being searched by men in black"

Wait until 3 AM tonight when they come with the big spotlights... but they all have sweet tooths...start baking the cookies now;)
1,530 posted on 06/16/2004 1:04:00 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: silentwatcher

Great post! This is what we need. Now what were these site again?


1,544 posted on 06/16/2004 2:46:54 PM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (There is no such thing as coincidence, GOD is in control.)
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To: silentwatcher

You are new so I will ask please do not post G damn here ok?


1,578 posted on 06/16/2004 5:19:04 PM PDT by JustPiper (Meteroite hits will help you lose weight!)
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To: silentwatcher

Hi silentwatcher. Thanks for posting that. Some of it really rings true, unfortunately. I have seen similar sentiment shared by terrorists supporters over at It's Happening for 2 years now, especially the part about the jihadis having to hold off on attacks due to tighted security. In fact, in the same period, there have been posts on Arabic boards to believers telling them to be patient...the hits will come when the time is right.


1,641 posted on 06/16/2004 9:16:52 PM PDT by Donna Lee Nardo
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