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CNN's Cooper and Gupta Bemoan Reagan's Indifference to AIDS(CNN's INDIFFERENCE to the FACTS)
MRC ^ | Thursday June 10, 2004 | BrentBaker

Posted on 06/10/2004 5:37:15 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay

On Tuesday night CNN devoted a segment of Anderson Cooper 360 to how, as CNN's Dr, Sanjay Gupta put it, throughout his presidency "many would accuse President Reagan of ignoring AIDS," as if Reagan talking about it would have done more to prevent it than those in the homosexual community modifying their unsafe sex practices. Leading into a Reagan clip from 1987, Gupta complained that "the first time President Reagan would utter the word AIDS in public would be well into his second term, six years after the virus was discovered." In fact, Reagan talked about AIDS in 1985 and cited it repeatedly in his 1986 State of the Union address. Gupta relayed how one "AIDS activist" believes "the administration avoided AIDS all those years because of homophobia."

Interviewing Dr. Anthony Fauci of the National Institutes of Health, Cooper pointed out how "the San Francisco Chronicle said that Ronald Reagan was guilty, and I quote, of a 'shameful abdication of leadership in the fight against AIDS.'" When Fauci wasn't sufficiently anti-Reagan, Cooper reminded him: "The criticism is that earlier on in 1981 or '82, they had been more vocal they might have made a difference. I think part of the anger, too, is that Reagan's communication director, Pat Buchanan, you know, was quoted as saying in print that AIDS is the wrath of God upon homosexuals."

Unmentioned by CNN, how, as Deroy Murdock conveyed on National Review Online: "In a Congressional Research Service study titled 'AIDS Funding for Federal Government Programs: FY1981-FY1999,' author Judith Johnson found that overall, the federal government spent $5.727 billion on AIDS under Ronald Reagan. This higher number reflects President Reagan's proposals as well as additional expenditures approved by Congress that he later signed."

For Murdock's piece, which quotes Reagan's comments about AIDS in 1985 and 1986, as well as how Patti Davis denied her father was any kind of homophobe: http://www.nationalreview.com/flashback/murdock200406081045.asp

(Cooper's segment on Reagan and AIDS aired the same night, MRC analyst Ken Shepherd noticed, that he devoted a story to the suddenly wise Nancy Reagan for opposing President Bush on stem cell research. He introduced that story: "Well, as President Bush remembers Ronald Reagan, he is also reminding America of his admiration of the Republican icon and of course, Reagan's wife Nancy, as well. But there is one sticky subject where the president and the wife of the former president part company, stem cell research. It is an anathema to many conservatives, but to a woman who just lost her beloved husband to Alzheimer's, it is a topic that transcends 'Raw Politics.'")

(Excerpt) Read more at mediaresearch.org ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aids; cnn; liberallies; reagan; riskybehavior
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So, AIDS policy aside, was Ronald Reagan a homophobe? Here again, those who know him best just say, "No."

"According to the screenplay...my father is a homophobic Bible-thumper who loudly insisted that his son wasn't gay when Ron took up ballet, and who in a particularly scathing scene told my mother that AIDS patients deserved their fate," wrote Ronald and Nancy Reagan's daughter,Patti Davis, on Time magazine's website. "Not only did my father never say such a thing, he never would have."

In fact, she recalls "the clear, smooth, non-judgmental way" in which her dad discussed the topic of homosexuality with her when she was age eight or nine.

"My father and I were watching an old Rock Hudson and Doris Day movie. At the moment when Hudson and Doris Day kissed, I said to my father, "That looks weird."... All I knew was that something about this particular man and woman was, to me, strange. My father gently explained that Mr. Hudson didn't really have a lot of experience kissing women; in fact, he would much prefer to be kissing a man. This was said in the same tone that would be used if he had been telling me about people with different colored eyes, and I accepted without question that this whole kissing thing wasn't reserved just for men and women."

Fact: Reagan publicly demonstrated this outlook when he opposed Proposition 6, a 1978 ballot measure that called for the dismissal of California teachers who "advocated" homosexuality, even outside of schools. Reagan used both a September 24, 1978, statement and a syndicated newspaper column to campaign against the initiative.

Fact:Precise budget requests are difficult to calculate, as online records from the 1980s are spotty. Nevertheless, New York University's archived, hard copies of budget documents from fiscal year 1984 through FY 1989 show that Reagan proposed at least $2.79 billion for AIDS research, education, and treatment. In a Congressional Research Service study titled AIDS Funding for Federal Government Programs: FY1981-FY1999, author Judith Johnson found that overall, the federal government spent $5.727 billion on AIDS under Ronald Reagan. This higher number reflects President Reagan's proposals as well as additional expenditures approved by Congress that he later signed.

Table 5 of Johnson's report shows annual federal AIDS spending during Ronald Reagan's watch. This is hardly the portrait of a do-nothing presidency chart

Charges that Showtime recently depicted in the controversial TV film "The Reagans". Nothing more than left-wing lies about an American legend.

Source:Anti-Gay Gipper A lie about Reagan

1 posted on 06/10/2004 5:37:18 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: fight_truth_decay
Gupta complained that "the first time President Reagan would utter the word AIDS in public would be well into his second term, six years after the virus was discovered."

The first time President Clinton would utter the name "Juanita Broaddrick" in public was well into his second term, as I recall...

2 posted on 06/10/2004 5:39:28 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Gupta was probably dedicated to Khali as a child.


3 posted on 06/10/2004 5:48:03 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: fight_truth_decay

That (Reagan didn't stop Aids) whine was the same one most of the CSPAN negative callers use.

The Libs found out few know anything about Iran Contra, so that flopped as mud to sling.

The only other issue they could seem to find to sling some mud at President Reagan was that he didn't stop Aids.

I'd bet most 'callers' couldn't even carry on a real discussion about how many $$$ Reagan, Bush1, Clinton, Bush2 provided, etc., because it is just the talking point for them to spew if they got on air.


4 posted on 06/10/2004 5:49:57 PM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: fight_truth_decay
Sorry, but NO politician is in any way responsible for AIDS. Not Reagan, not Bush, not Clinton, not nobody.

Why should ANYBODY care about AIDS more than those who are too self-indulgent to STOP the behavior that transmits it?

They're lambasting Reagan on AIDS because he didn't accept/embrace the gay agenda. Period.

5 posted on 06/10/2004 5:51:28 PM PDT by Lizavetta (Gun control = hitting your target)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I remember when AIDs first broke the public conciousness,
we were told over and over, it was a civil rights issue
NOT a health emergency.

Now they're sniveling.


6 posted on 06/10/2004 5:51:47 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: fight_truth_decay

Republicans wanted to curtail the actvities which spread AIDS; liberals opposed any action to curtail such activities. So the Republicans are at fault for the fact that the disease was spread by people participating in such activities?


7 posted on 06/10/2004 5:52:38 PM PDT by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: Lizavetta
Sorry, but NO politician is in any way responsible for AIDS. Not Reagan, not Bush, not Clinton, not nobody.

What about those who prevented any action to clamp down on the bathhouses where the disease was spread?

8 posted on 06/10/2004 5:53:53 PM PDT by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: supercat

AIDs was identified in the late 70's. Wouldn't that really make it Carter's fault?


9 posted on 06/10/2004 5:57:18 PM PDT by Jaded
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To: supercat
If the bathhouses didn't exist they'd go to each other's apartments to boink each other. AIDS will cease when the participants stop their behavior.

It amazes me that it's become virtually a capital crime to even suggest that people behave themselves. We are a nation of toddlers who want what we want NOW with no restrictions or responsibilities, only rights.

10 posted on 06/10/2004 5:58:15 PM PDT by Lizavetta (Gun control = hitting your target)
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To: fight_truth_decay
Good thing President Clinton was elected. He eradicated AIDS in America. Didn't he?

<<<< crickets >>>>

11 posted on 06/10/2004 5:58:33 PM PDT by freebilly (Vote Kerry-- 1 Billion Muslims Can't Be Wrong....)
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To: Lizavetta
True! And I believe that Reagan did not think it was in his realm of issues to be concerned with....we have agencies in government to deal with diseases and to pass out money for those diseases.

Every president after Reagan has talked about AIDS and it has not made the problem a faint memory.....so what gives???????????

12 posted on 06/10/2004 5:58:42 PM PDT by BossLady (What do your choices cost you????)
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To: TomGuy
That (Reagan didn't stop Aids) whine was the same one most of the CSPAN negative callers use.

And here we are, some 20+ years later, and there still isn't a cure for AIDS, despite 8 wondrous years of Bill Clinton, despite billions of dollars spent by many countries to the detriment of research into the cure of other less "fashionable" diseases.

They do have a point, however; Reagan could have stopped AIDS in America by quarantining carriers early and shutting down businesses that promoted the spread of the disease, but we all know how that would have gone over. In the end, everyone knew that (a) the odds of getting AIDS if you lead a clean life were extremely small, and (b) if those that were at risk of getting AIDS wouldn't do anything to help themselves then there really wasn't a moral obligation to help them.

13 posted on 06/10/2004 6:01:13 PM PDT by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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To: Jaded

AIDS virus was not identified until 1982.


14 posted on 06/10/2004 6:03:52 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: TomGuy
Did you hear the CSPAN caller who was indignant because Clinton and Carter were not 'invited" to Reagan's services? Oh yes, she was sure it was true in spite of the newsreader telling her they just weren't invited to speak! She said her friend had called her and she had heard that too!

Rush brought up the fact that VP Cheney was told not to attend Wellstone's "memorial rally" Wonder if that woman was indignant about that too? NO!!!
15 posted on 06/10/2004 6:05:02 PM PDT by ladyinred (RIP Governor/President Reagan, ride peacefully into that sunset.)
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To: Lizavetta
If the bathhouses didn't exist they'd go to each other's apartments to boink each other. AIDS will cease when the participants stop their behavior.

Having never participated in that 'scene' I can only conjecture, but something tells me that the promiscuity rates among bathhouse patrons were probably higher than among those who went home for their 'relationships'.

I also have a feeling that there were and are many 'homosexual activists' who wanted and still want AIDS to spread so they can portray homosexuals as 'victims'.

16 posted on 06/10/2004 6:05:52 PM PDT by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: tet68
Then, later, they said there was a privacy issue, so they couldn't be forced to reveal to anybody whether they had AIDS or not.

The homosexual lobby has fought tooth and nail every step of the way for the right to spread AIDS unfettered. They didn't really want anybody stopping it; they only wanted their treatment paid for with OPM.

17 posted on 06/10/2004 6:12:37 PM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: fight_truth_decay

I remember reading about it as the 'gay plague' in the early 80's when I had a subscription to Rolling Stone. A friend's husband who was a hemophiliac contracted it either from his meds or a blood transfusion in 83 or 84.

It still doesn't make it Reagan's fault, he wasn't the one spreading it and there's still not a cure.


18 posted on 06/10/2004 6:15:12 PM PDT by Jaded
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To: ladyinred
caller who was indignant because Clinton and Carter were not 'invited" to Reagan's services?

Nancy Reagan chooses who will speak. This is not a political rally like Wellstone's service.

The rumor was also that Clinton was pissed off as this deflected interest of his book coming out. Again not verified at this time..only rumor.

19 posted on 06/10/2004 6:16:04 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: randog
They do have a point, however; Reagan could have stopped AIDS in America by quarantining carriers early and shutting down businesses that promoted the spread of the disease, but we all know how that would have gone over. In the end, everyone knew that (a) the odds of getting AIDS if you lead a clean life were extremely small, and (b) if those that were at risk of getting AIDS wouldn't do anything to help themselves then there really wasn't a moral obligation to help them.

One rather interesting facet of liberalism is that it imparts nobility to victimhood. If someone is harmed by something, one should be entitled to benefit from it; one should not try to mitigate harm, because reducing the harm one suffers would reduce the amount of 'relief' to which one was entitled.

The notion that it is better to have problems and blame someone else for them, than not to have the problems in the first place, seems bizarre, but it seems to have infected a lot of people in a lot of ways. I don't know what the best way to counter this infectious notion, but perhaps forcing it into the open will help.

20 posted on 06/10/2004 6:16:38 PM PDT by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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