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To: Cincinatus' Wife
>Space travel is also about the soul, about the aspiration of the human sprit

That stuff sounds good, but
would anyone really say
NASA -- defined by

bureaucracies and
old boy networks, along with
weird academic

hierarchies -- stands
as a manifestation
of the human soul?

5 posted on 06/15/2004 7:10:46 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: theFIRMbss

NASA's mantra under Clinton's appointee was "too male, too pale, and too stale."

A lot of the Apollo-era engineers, who had since entered senior management, were driven out during those years.


7 posted on 06/15/2004 8:11:39 AM PDT by GOP Jedi
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To: theFIRMbss
If you have ever had experience with NASA people, you know that they believe very strongly in human endeavor, and reaching out, and all of those "human soul" sorts of things.

What's missing inside NASA (and lots of other organizations) is that undefineable combination of leadership and competence that characterized Apollo.

But the bigger issue has nothing to do with NASA: no amount of leadership or enthusiasm will make up for the inability for the general population to dream. Nor can it make up for the levels of unchecked cynicism so common to those in positions of influence (and they have a vested interest in keeping people from dreaming).

Kennedy said we should go into space because it's easy, but because it's hard. But he was wrong -- we should go into space because it's intrinsically worth doing. The problem is: how do you make that case? How do you vault past the cynics to get to the dreamers, and how do you avoid disappointing them through failure?

I usually come on to these threads challenging the "privatize space" folks to present a business case for their cause. I personally think "privitization" is bound to fail except in cases where government R&D has already been done, and feasibility has been demonstrated. That's why a revitalized NASA is necessary. Space does offer tremendous potential, but it likewise requires the expenditure of tremendous resources -- amounts only a government can amass -- to make it work.

I hope W's team comes out with a realistic timeline, and I hope that they start it rolling during his next administration.

12 posted on 06/15/2004 9:34:28 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: theFIRMbss
Robert Cohrum's book on John Boyed talked about Boyed's long standing fight with Wright Patterson. Apparently several WWII era German aerdynamicists toured the facility. They commented "We had seven such facilities during the war, now we know why we lost".

Nasa is just a retirement home for AF technocrat and careerists.
61 posted on 06/18/2004 8:58:21 AM PDT by Dead Dog (Expose the Media to Light, Expose the Media to Market Forces.)
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