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EU Election: European Old Guard in Denial
MensNewsDaily.com ^ | June 15, 2004 | Roger F. Gay

Posted on 06/16/2004 5:28:14 AM PDT by RogerFGay

EU Election: European Old Guard in Denial

June 15, 2004


by Roger F. Gay

European political leaders in established state parties struggled through the first hours following punishment dealt to them in EU parliamentary elections. Despite the clear message from voters that they are not willing to allow a dramatic power shift to Brussels, the old guard is not showing signs that the message has been received.

Reporters who interviewed current members of parliament after the election described a certain amount of "arrogance" and "pathetic" reactions, such as describing voters as too uninformed to participate in the political process and doubting the "legitimacy" of the results due to low voter turnout. Jacques Chirac said that the EU elections were "disappointing for all of us and for Europe," apparently making a clear distinction between his Europe and the democratic voice of European voters. According to BBC correspondent Carole Walker; Michael Howard, leader of the Tory Party in England that lost nine seats in this election, promised he will not let the result "force the party into an anti-EU position."

Media professor Stig Hadenius, writing in <i>Dagens Nyheter</i>, criticized media handling of EU politics. What is needed is independent journalistic scrutiny. Instead, the media went hand in hand with established parties and opinion polls and made the same errors in judging the level of EU skepticism. He also criticized the topics covered by the media. Instead of taking up important European political issues, the focus was on voter participation and partisan polling data.

After some initial confusion, an attempt at damage control is starting to take shape. In some press releases, the concept of EU skepticism is limited to counting members of newly created parties that were founded with the sole mission of opposing the <i>super state</i> that the proposed constitution would create, and those parties are lumped together in post election analysis with "nationalists" and parties that are "hostile to foreigners." With the right spin, it can look like EU skeptics are a mixed collection of extremists that will make up only a bit more than 10 percent of the new parliament.

EU skeptics however, cut across the political spectrum and are found in most if not all political parties. Individuals within parties have been at odds with party leadership. In Sweden, this movement become obvious last year when voters rejected the Euro in a referendum. Splinter groups from every political party broke from their party leadership to campaign against the uncontrolled power shift often called "the European project."

Anna Hedh is a member of the Swedish Social Democratic Labor Party and a good example. As an EU skeptic, she is at odds with party leadership even though a majority of Swedish Social Democrats oppose the proposed constitution. As a candidate for the EU Parliament, her name was placed 31st on the back side of the party list where in normal circumstances it might have gone unnoticed and quickly forgotten. But Social Democratic voters found and checked her name in droves, an option in Sweden's partisan system. She will be a member of the new parliament along with candidates that were placed at the top of the list.

After her victory she commented that "the establishment" is not in step with the people on EU issues. That view is supported by Uppsala political science professor Sverker Gustavsson, who commented that established parties did not care about the voters.

Despite the success of skeptics in this election, the battle to defend states' rights is far from over. New EU MP Robert Kilroy-Silk, of the UK Independent Party has promised to "wreck" the EU by exposing the corruption that is destroying independence. It has been reported that Tony Blair is meeting with British MPs to formulate a strategy to stop him. One proposal from a pro-Europe politician is to eliminate elections to the EU Parliament in favor of political appointments.

The EU Parliament in fact, does not have the power to stop adoption of the constitution. One of the problems with "the European project" is that elected representatives to the EU actually have about as much power as the sausage vendor out on the street. The dramatic shift in power that would result if the proposed constitution were to go into effect would reduce state legislatures to symbolic artifacts, causing the collapse of democracy in Europe.

The election of a powerful EU skeptics bloc however sends a strong message to the established political class that has driven "the European project." One positive reaction is to allow a referendum on the proposed constitution, a step that several states have already accepted. A more positive step would be to abandon the proposed constitution to begin work on an acceptable political program. If Europeans are unable to move established state leaders from their current course, their only option is to replace them with EU skeptics in state elections. Given what the old guard has tried to get away with, that is probably a good idea in any case.

Roger F. Gay



Roger F. Gay is a professional analyst, international correspondent and regular contributor to MensNewsDaily.com, as well as a contributing editor for Fathering Magazine.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: eu; sweden
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1 posted on 06/16/2004 5:28:17 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: anguish; AzSteven; Bartholomew Roberts; bc2; Charles Henrickson; duke_h3; Eurotwit; fdsa2; ...

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2 posted on 06/16/2004 5:29:19 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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describing voters as too uninformed to participate in the political process

I can just hear the snooty euro-politicos now-"What's wrong with these savages? Who wouldn't want to eat our globaloney?"

3 posted on 06/16/2004 5:33:06 AM PDT by Brett66
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To: RogerFGay

Interesting article. Thanks for your work.


4 posted on 06/16/2004 5:34:48 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: RogerFGay
The dramatic shift in power that would result if the proposed constitution were to go into effect would reduce state legislatures to symbolic artifacts, causing the collapse of democracy in Europe.

Exactly. If and when that constitution is adopted, America will lose many allies who will have been absorbed into a huge bureaucratic glob where nations and individuals mean nothing.

5 posted on 06/16/2004 5:40:57 AM PDT by catpuppy (John Kerry! When hair is all that matters)
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To: RogerFGay
It's decent presentation based upon a heartening premise, but I would like more data and references indicating the depth of this sentiment and the likelihood of action upon its behalf, particularly where differences in partisanship are concerned. For example, people in the US on both the left and are disaffected with the President, but for different reasons that might preclude the necessary cooperation by which to effect change. There is also no indication re the degree to which the Tories suffered defeat due to euroskepticism as opposed to other causes. For me to accept that there is a groundswell against this brazen act of creeping tyranny capable of halting it, I would need more evidence.

The manner in which this Euroconstitutional monster was cooked up was most disturbing. Anyone with an ounce of sense would reject it for that alone.

6 posted on 06/16/2004 6:05:45 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Three choices: War on Terror, submit to Islam, or die.)
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Really disaffected with the President. OK, if you say so, but that is not what the poll numbers show. The polls may show the Presdident having the support of his party and base, but lagging in independent and Dem support.


7 posted on 06/16/2004 7:08:57 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: Carry_Okie
Yes, apparently we're on the same page, and I too am interested in more detail -- certainly will be willing to present it when it's available. At present, what I've seen anyway, suggests that it would be quite a job to collect the disparate bits of information and assemble them -- likely with some speculation -- into a scientific presentation. Confidence in what I'm saying comes from watching political developments in Europe from my perspective for years. There's a problem with detailed interpretation of what's happening in the UK, because the BBC is so doggedly biased that it presents only what supports their anti-American, anti-Iraq policy, anti-Blair dogma. Leading up to the EU elections, everything people thought was supposed to have been a protest against Iraq policy and against George Bush. Watching their election night coverage, they were babbling senselessly trying to get the data to fit their bias -- up to and including interviewsing someone from Denmark, an exception to the rule.

What I think will eventually be more insightful than polling data on the EU Constitution right now, is open, serioius debate on the constitution -- followed by polling data. I agree whole-heartedly with you that the constitution should easily be rejected for obviously what it is. At the same time, I don't think everyone in Europe has read the constitution, studied its history, and analyzed what it would mean.
8 posted on 06/16/2004 7:10:21 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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To: Carry_Okie

BTW: Read today that Michael Howard called on Tony Blair to reject the proposed constitution outright.


9 posted on 06/16/2004 7:11:29 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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"Europe" is still all about elites - pretty much why we wanted out of it 200 odd years ago.


10 posted on 06/16/2004 7:12:12 AM PDT by norton
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I happens to be one of those " Euro septic "
Actually like most I have noting against a unified Europe
It's just that I do not want to swallow the kind of " Europe " that Chirac & Co wants to shove down my throat
11 posted on 06/16/2004 7:15:48 AM PDT by 1903A3
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If you think Bush's immigration policies haven't disaffected a good many conservatives, you are smoking something.


12 posted on 06/16/2004 7:15:52 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: RogerFGay
Reporters who interviewed current members of parliament after the election described a certain amount of "arrogance" and "pathetic" reactions, such as describing voters as too uninformed to participate in the political process and doubting the "legitimacy" of the results due to low voter turnout.

That's quite a reaction, don't cha think? It illustrates quite well the elitist mind-set and culmination of liberalism - the desire to take away the vote from the "commoners". Maybe that's why French and German leadership doesn't want democracy in Iraq - just more of the rabble having a say in things. Let us thank The Creator for the Second Amendment.
13 posted on 06/16/2004 7:19:06 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: RogerFGay
BTW: Read today that Michael Howard called on Tony Blair to reject the proposed constitution outright.

Good. This monstrosity needs to be flushed, hopefully with the untreated outfall flooding the streets of Paris.

I remember reading in The Economist (about five years ago) an account of how the deal was concluded regarding the apportionment of national representation posited in the EU constitution. At the time, it evoked in me a remarkably unfavorable comparison with the great compromise of the US federal convention. One should rationally think that political leadership had progressed somewhat since the eighteenth century, especially after so many horrors of war and tyranny. It was quite apparently the contrary.

Oh well.

14 posted on 06/16/2004 7:26:27 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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At the time, it evoked in me a remarkably unfavorable comparison with the great compromise of the US federal convention. One should rationally think that political leadership had progressed somewhat since the eighteenth century, especially after so many horrors of war and tyranny. It was quite apparently the contrary.

Someone is going to have to explain to me, with an argument other than the US model is old, what the problem is with federalism. The Soviet Communist model was a newer one, but newer doesn't necessarily mean better. The solutions of the US Constitutional convention were rational ones. Now Europe is faced with the same questions. People obviously want the EU to have limited powers -- so did the people at the US Constitutional convention.

It seems to me that there are too many arguments -- can't do that because the Americans do -- going unchallanged. It seems to me that simply results in a general refusal to look at the issues, stick to the subject of addressing the issues, and having a debate on how the issues should be dealt with.
15 posted on 06/16/2004 7:36:07 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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Someone is going to have to explain to me, with an argument other than the US model is old, what the problem is with federalism.

It is a structural problem. Unless a limited number of individual rights (particularly property rights) supercede the authority of government, the need for final authority in the settlement of disputes engenders an irreversible accrual of police powers, a process that slowly negates the purpose for limited government.

:-)

You might want to read this.

16 posted on 06/16/2004 7:50:23 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: RogerFGay

The really sticky wicket is international law.


17 posted on 06/16/2004 7:51:39 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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Oh, I am not saying that Bush has not lost some conservatives, but I am saying that in terms of the electorage, Bush still has the support of the base.


18 posted on 06/16/2004 7:51:53 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: Carry_Okie
It is a structural problem. Unless a limited number of individual rights (particularly property rights) supercede the authority of government, the need for final authority in the settlement of disputes engenders an irreversible accrual of police powers, a process that slowly negates the purpose for limited government.

I'm going to click on your suggested link next, but it seemed I had something to say on your comment even without reading the link.

Yes to individual rights -- but that's the American model too; See "Bill of Rights" and also "separation of powers" in branches of government -- an independent judiciary whose higher authority is the Constitution (incl. Bill of Rights) rather than another branch of government.

What's been screwing up the US isn't federalism. There are a couple other problems.

One is the power of Congress to tax -- and they've gotten away with taxing for purposes other than the limited purposes specified in the Constitution. Then they impose their will on states by laws that share the illgotten money with states that comply with federal regulations in areas in which Congress is not legally allowed to regulate, and deny the money to states that don't go along.

The other is that we don't have a partisan political system. I don't know if that surprises you because of course we actually do have a partisan political system. But the Constitution doesn't define one. According to the Constitution, there's no such thing as a political party. Thus, we don't have a mechanism that supports proportional representation of the views individuals hold with respect to actual issues. Instead, we have two small parties, Republicans and Democrats, with all the power.
19 posted on 06/16/2004 7:59:13 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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"One proposal from a pro-Europe politician is to eliminate elections to the EU Parliament in favor of political appointments."

Uhh...yeah, that's pretty much how the Soviets did it.

20 posted on 06/16/2004 9:48:33 AM PDT by VaBthang4 ("He who watches over Israel will neither slumber nor sleep")
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