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"Bigger holes are (almost) always better."
1 posted on 06/16/2004 12:35:51 PM PDT by 45Auto
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To: 45Auto
"Bigger holes are (almost) always better."

Depends on whether you are on the giving or receiving end.

It is more blessed to give . . .

2 posted on 06/16/2004 12:38:46 PM PDT by P8riot
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To: 45Auto

Until proved differently I will stick with the 0.45 caliber for handguns and 000 buck for shotguns.

That's my homeland defense plan


3 posted on 06/16/2004 12:39:23 PM PDT by Mikey_1962
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To: 45Auto

Seems rather self-evident, but most experts make their nickel convincing us the self evident is not really true.


4 posted on 06/16/2004 12:40:21 PM PDT by hopespringseternal (People should be banned for sophistry.)
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To: 45Auto

This fellow didn't menition one word about the resistance to the bullet offered by the body. Or on the penetrability of the bullet being enhanced or hindered by its shape.


8 posted on 06/16/2004 12:46:06 PM PDT by sauropod (Which would you prefer? "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" or "I did not have sex with that woman?)
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To: 45Auto
All I know is that a heavy bullet can drop game quickly. Case in point. My father had a .35 Remington. It was a rifle designed by Browning and Remington made the gun. It was a gas operated semi-automatic that had a fixed 5 round magazine.

If I am correct, the .35 slug was in a 30-30 casing. The slug was 200 grains. It wasn't much good beyond 150 yards, but it would plow through brush and immediately drop the animal that it hit. And, they didn't move or kick. The effect was immediate.

As a side-bar, I remember reading that the Texas Rangers used them as a saddle gun in particularly brushy country.

13 posted on 06/16/2004 12:54:29 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: 45Auto
Any comments as to the nature of these terminal ballistics?

http://www.ogrish.com/view_attachment.php?id=21660

The audio's in Spanish. According to a translation provided by another Freeper, it says: translation by another Freeper translated and in Spanish, and says:

"live [film of] killings has become a daily occurrence here, and this one, which happened in the neighborhood of [?], occupied by supporters of the radical cleric.."

It breaks off here, so the video appears to be one of al Sadr's boys learning that al Sadrs "Mojo" couldn't protect him.

17 posted on 06/16/2004 1:02:09 PM PDT by fso301
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To: 45Auto
There are some extremely rarely encountered exceptions to the general rule, but for most purposes the hole caused by a bullet is its only measure of terminal effectiveness.

I disagree!!!

Location of the hole is likely MORE important than the size. A small hole between the eyes is like more effective that a large hole in the sheetrock next to the perp!

19 posted on 06/16/2004 1:04:36 PM PDT by Onelifetogive
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To: 45Auto

Personally, I prefer the 458 Winchester, a dangerous game caliber that will kill anything from elephants on down.


20 posted on 06/16/2004 1:05:29 PM PDT by Captain Rhino ("If you will just abandon logic, these things will make a lot more sense to you!")
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To: *bang_list; Eaker

BANG


32 posted on 06/16/2004 3:20:07 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: 45Auto
My opinion which I guess is as good as the next guy's

The most important thing in stopping is bullet placement then velocity, followed by bullet size and construction.

There really doesn't seem to be many hard and fast rules. I once read a good true story about a Belgian paratrooper who actually had killed lots of people with a handgun. This was during the 50's when the Congolese were literally killing and eating Whites. His favorite pistol was the little Browning .32 auto.

Interestingly another famous fighter also liked the little .32, he was William Fairbairn.

I appreciate the old .45 auto and also the Browning HP but suspect the .357 magnum performs better than either.

I recall reading a great magazine article by Russell Annabell in Sports Afield maybe 30 years ago. He was an old Alaska Sourdough and was telling about killing a pack of wolves which attacked his mule train. His gun was the Colt Woodsman .22 of which he said there should be a monument built somewhere.I have personally seen the .45 acp fail miserably on raccoons and had a .22 auto kill easily with a single shot. Now I don't think a .22 is better than a .45 but I do think placement is by far the most important factor.

45 posted on 06/16/2004 5:02:43 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: 45Auto

Bump, just cause I can't believe this thread isn't at 500 posts yet.


61 posted on 06/17/2004 3:33:55 PM PDT by bad company (God speed Dutch)
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