Scientists Transfer Info Between Atoms (Star Trek Teleportation is REAL!)

Local 6 News ^ | 6-16-2004 | AP

[R. Scott]

Not so much for the transporter - but it might make for good “subspace communications”.

[StriperSniper]

If they reversed the spin of one particle then the other particle's spin instantly reversed with no time delay due to distance. By using that method, you could communicate instantly with binary code,

Sub-space communications? ;-)

[freedumb2003]

Hah! Planets are not in deserts. Deserts are on planets. Guess those comic strip guys don't think of everything.

But, that's what makes it
BIZARRO!!!

[AntiGuv]

Oh, I see what the problem is. First, to answer B Knotts question*, the quick answer is: No, nothing is ever travelling from the given 'present' into the past in the course of superluminal communication. Some things are arriving at a given point in the future 'faster' than others. But, everything is moving from the 'present' to the 'future'.

In reply to PatrickHenry, your pasted post contains a dreadful logical fallacy. I will post a detailed reply to that later.

* Wouldn't a faster than light transfer of information arrive before it was sent?

[freedumb2003]

Quantum entanglement is also an essential requirement of quantum computing as it is envisioned. It also raises the distinct prospect of quantum jumps and quantum teleportation.

Which leads us to:

[AntiGuv]

I meant to add that I will post a more detailed explanation to your question as well, as soon as I have the time.

[Buggman]

Wouldn't a faster than light transfer of information arrive before it was sent?

Not precisely, if I understand it correctly (and I might not). It would appear to to someone observing the point of origin through light-waves, but to take my earlier example, while you might be observing the earth as it was 10 years ago from a point 10 light-years away, the earth isn't actually 10 years younger--that's just how long the light took to reach there. If you sent an ansible signal to earth, you wouldn't see an instant result--you'd have to wait ten years for the light waves carrying the result to reach you.

If I'm wrong, please someone explain how and why.

[Buggman]

Hmmm . . . I'm not sure I buy that, but let's play with this. First, a question: From earth, you would appear to be slowing down, whereas from your vantage point, earth's activities (her clock) would appear to be accelerated, wouldn't they?

[judgeandjury]

Transporter technology is cool

Are you quoting Einstein?

[Doc On The Bay]

Disagree, Sir,--I think we are "Inches Away From "Transporters!"

I'm Probably Overly Optimistic, But I BET we "Transport" "Inanimate Objects" within the Next 10 Years!!

"Human Technological Knowlege" ALWAYS seems to be AT LEAST 10 Years Behind Human Research!!

Invariably, we will encounter abberrations unforseen as we attempt to use this Method of "Transport," but we will "Find a way " to "Make This Work!"

If we can "Transport" ANYTHING using this Method--We'll Figure Out a Way to Do It!!

Doc

[Corin Stormhands]

ping!

Dangit! We ALL coulda gone to wedding-moot!

[PatrickHenry]

First, a question: From earth, you [in the ship, I assume] would appear to be slowing down, whereas from your vantage point, earth's activities (her clock) would appear to be accelerated, wouldn't they?

No, each would observe that the other's clocks had slowed down. So it would always be, unless the ship decelerates, turns around, and accelerates toward earth again. Then you have a situation where the ship's clocks have been through some motions that earth had not experienced. This gets complex, and I'll rely on Physicist to go into detail (as I always do when I'm over my head). When the ship gets back to earth, it becomes obvious that it's only the ship's clocks that had slowed down.

[Buggman]

Hmm, again. I see where you're going with this, but then we have to ask the question of why the twins' paradox happens, since the two clocks would simply sinc up again when our hypothetical ship flew back towards the earth and both parties observed the other's speeding up.

[Fedora]

"Dangit! We ALL coulda gone to wedding-moot!"

ROFL!

[PatrickHenry]

I see where you're going with this, but then we have to ask the question of why the twins' paradox happens, since the two clocks would simply sinc up again when our hypothetical ship flew back towards the earth and both parties observed the other's speeding up.

The clocks never sync up, and neither sees the other's clock speeding up. Acceleration always slows a clock down. But when they are brought together, in the same frame of reference, the ship-board traveler and earth-bound fellow will both agree that it's the ship's clock that had slowed down.

[Junior]

Dunno. The only thing transported by this experiment was information.

[Willie Green]

Are you quoting Einstein?

No, I don't think so.
I know he had a cameo appearance in at least one episode...
but that was on the Holodeck.
I don't remember him ever being in the transporter room.

[catonsville]

S.D Haldane, the Marxist, atheist
physicist who believed that scientific laws, not God would explain the universe wrote, in a fit of honesty, that "the world is stranger than we suppose it is, in fact, it is stranger than we can ever suppose it is."

There is something going on and we are all going along for the ride.

[AntiGuv]

Actually, nothing is being "transported" anywhere. The information has been transmitted but nothing 'moved' from one location to another. That is the fundamental misconception that is causing all these issues with causality and so on to arise but I am still figuring out how to explain it properly. =)

[B Knotts]

I see what you're saying, and it seems correct intuitively, but a lot has been written on the causality problems of instantaneous communication across large distances, so I would reckon there must be something to it.