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From two retired generals and strategists: a blueprint for winning the war on terror
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Posted on 06/17/2004 12:25:13 PM PDT by Happy2BMe

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To: FBD

In "Onward Muslim Soldiers", how many times did they propose making peace with the Christians?


21 posted on 06/18/2004 7:52:55 AM PDT by B4Ranch ( GET READY!!..-> http://www.ready.gov/get_a_kit.html)
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To: B4Ranch; Landru; Happy2BMe; Mudboy Slim; sultan88; BraveMan; p8triot
In "Onward Muslim Soldiers", how many times did they propose making peace...?


Ha, That's a trick question, ain't it? The answer is: whenever Muslims get their butts kicked in battle they employ a standoff strategy: call for a cease-fire.

Something our generals better learn, but it doesn't appear that they have yet:
Ever since the "Prophet" Muhamm-Mad was getting his butt kicked an a battle in Saudi Arabia, he then called for a cease fire, then he regrouped, and after ten years, he amassed 10,000 soldiers and came back and conquered Mecca.

You see; Muhammed set a strategical precedent for Islamic Jihadists, and ever since, the Muslims have been negotiating cease-fires, whenever they are getting they're butts kicked.

Think about what has happened with the PLO over the last 20 years, every time Israel whips their butt. They call for a cease-fire.

Now, think about what Saddam did, after Gulf War 1...
Did he surrender?
Nope, he basically agreed to a cease-fire.

Ok, let's move on to Afghanistan. After the Taliban started getting their butts kicked, they tried to negotiate a cease-fire, but fortunately, our generals (this time) weren't game.

How-ever, think about what happened at Tora-Bora...we had Osama bin Laden pinned down, and we negotiated : a cease fire. And Osama then snuck out of the area, only to regroup.

Fast forward to Fallujah; we neglected to take out Zarqawie (sic). So our Marines had to go back in and with the help of AC-131 gunships, absolutely decimated Zarqawi's fighters. What did he then propose? A cease-fire.
And our Generals and politicians STUPIDLY negotiated with him, and the Iranian clerics who support him

So what is Zarqawi trying to do now?
He's trying to get on the ballot for Iraqi's new democratic government.

This thing isn't ever going to end, because we won't do what we did to Germany and Japan: absolutely crush the enemy.


Now in regard to all this, my FRiend Landru here would refer us to Pink Floyd's song: "Us and Them" -


Us...and Them,
And after all; we're only ordinary men.
Me and you.
God only knows; what we would choose to do.
Forward he cried; from the rear,
and the front rank died.
And the general sat and the lines on the map,
moved from side to side.
Black and blue,
and who knows which is which, and who is who.
Up and down,
but in the End; It's only round and round.

22 posted on 06/18/2004 9:17:50 AM PDT by FBD (...Please press 2 for English...for Espanol, please stay on the line...)
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Hating the Muslims is easy, so is respecting their sense of how to win. Cease fire - regroup and then come back to kick butt.

Why are we so damn stupid when fighting an enemy lie them?

The Muslims have learned what other religions and armies haven't. The Koran says, "Kill your enemy, don't try to pacify them or make peace with them. Kill them and be rid of them."

When America people get all upset over the *abuse* of a few enemy prisoners, we can be sure that Americans will take along time to learn what the Muslims know. When American soldiers are abused there isn't a peep from Washington about it. We fully believe in compromise. This has been taught to us for many years.

America and our citizens are unique. We have a government which will not tell us the truth, and a people which absolutely will not hear the truth, spoken from anyone. It is easier to ignore the facts than accept them. Thus the perfect partnership in our decay.


23 posted on 06/18/2004 10:00:19 AM PDT by B4Ranch ( GET READY!!..-> http://www.ready.gov/get_a_kit.html)
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24 posted on 06/18/2004 10:03:52 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Call me the Will Rogers voter: I never met a Democrat I didn't like - to vote OUT OF POWER !)
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By George, I think FBD is getting this whole thing nailed down quite nicely . .
25 posted on 06/18/2004 10:03:52 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Ronald Reagan to Islamic Terrorism: YOU CAN RUN - BUT YOU CAN'T HIDE!)
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To: B4Ranch; FBD; Smartass; dennisw; SJackson; Salem
"Hating the Muslims is easy, so is respecting their sense of how to win. Cease fire - regroup and then come back to kick butt.

Why are we so damn stupid when fighting an enemy like them?"

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Years from now, talking over a beer at their unit 5, 10, and 20-year reunions, the US Marines who were called off of killing over 1,000 known cutthroat Islamic terrorist at FALLUJAH (among them those who beheaded, burned, danced on and finally strung up four American bodies for all of Islam to see) your question, B4Ranch will still be ringing in their ears . .

IMHO, pulling our Marines away from Fallujah JUST ONE DAY before certain victory and AFTER THE HEAVY LOSS OF AMERICAN LIVES - most in utter humiliation - was the single-most strategic error of this war.

It gave Islam a milestone victory to gloat over among their sick putrid selves, but also now they can show the world how they "drove back" the American "infidels" all in the name of Allah.

Plus, it took the wind out of our morale and planted a seed that will not grow good crops among some of our very finest.

26 posted on 06/18/2004 10:18:34 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Ronald Reagan to Islamic Terrorism: YOU CAN RUN - BUT YOU CAN'T HIDE!)
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To: Happy2BMe

read later :)


27 posted on 06/18/2004 10:21:21 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn
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