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What's the name of the game? An EU superstate
The Times ^ | June 22, 2004 | MICHAEL GOVE

Posted on 06/21/2004 3:04:03 PM PDT by MadIvan

The new constitution is another step in the process that robs us of our rights

NEVER say that Tony Blair doesn’t have a sense of history. While the treaty that establishes a new constitution for Europe was being signed, the Prime Minister’s spin-doctors were pointing out that this deal had been concluded on the 189th anniversary of the Battle of Waterloo. The implication was supposed to be clear. Tony Blair was a latter-day Wellington, once again beating off the French on Belgian soil, and thereby safeguarding British independence. In the words of Abba’s own anthem commemorating that battle, “the history book on the shelf / is always repeating itself”.

Over the weekend the line repeatedly went out that the French-led plan to build a more federal Europe had been defeated and a more “Anglo-Saxon” vision of Europe had triumphed. The one-way transfer of powers away from nation states towards European institutions had been countered, and a looser model of Europe had prevailed in which national parliaments and national electorates had more power.

The truth, however, is quite the opposite. The new European constitution marks another step in the surrender of powers from accountable national parliaments to unaccountable EU institutions. Like the Maastricht, Amsterdam and Nice treaties, the EU constitution strips nation states of powers and pushes them further away from the reach of national voters. Each of those treaties was presented as either a brake on the federal process or even a reversal. Douglas Hurd called the Maastricht treaty “the high tide of federalism”. But it led to Britain losing the right to govern itself in 30 areas, while Amsterdam meant the surrender of another 20 areas of self-government and Nice more than 40. Every time a British government concludes an EU treaty we’re told that Europe is, at last, “going our way” and our independence has been safeguarded. But in every case the truth is the exact opposite of what the Government says. The history book on the shelf really is always repeating itself.

The new constitution for Europe goes further than ever before in stripping the British people of the right to govern themselves. Britain loses the right to veto in 43 new areas, and 36 other articles would result in ceding legislative power to the European Parliament. One of the most worrying areas where Britain loses its veto is immigration. If the constitution is ratified then Britain could be outvoted on asylum policy and its own legislation could be struck down by foreign judges.

Not only does the constitution take away Britain’s veto in a swath of areas, it also diminishes Britain’s weight in the voting balance of Europe. When Britain joined the EU we had 56 per cent of the votes required to block those measures that became law under the system of qualified majority voting. As it stands we now have only 39 per cent of the votes required. If the constitution is passed that will drop again. The constitution, therefore, directly reduces British weight, and influence, in Europe.

On top of that a whole range of powers are now to be “shared” between national parliaments and the EU, but nation states will be free to act only when the EU chooses not to. Powers will be “shared” in the same way as tax money is “shared” by Gordon Brown — we’ll only get to keep whatever the central authority lets us.

The Government nevertheless claims that in vital areas its “red lines” preserve national independence. When it comes to social security as well as civil and criminal legal harmonisation, the Government believes we still have an effective veto through a new mechanism called “the emergency brake”. But the brake can only slow federalising measures, not reverse them. It allows Britain to register an objection to any new law inimical to our interests but the objectionable measure is then only put in abeyance for a short period, before it is referred to a quarterly meeting of the European Council, where qualified majority voting can be invoked and Britain enjoys no guaranteed veto.

The European Council is the EU’s supreme decision-making body. It will continue to meet in secret, but under circumstances where nation states will matter less than ever. Its president will not be the elected head of a state government but a new bureaucrat answerable to no electorate. He will have his own foreign minister and diplomatic service who will help to frame a pan-European foreign policy which member states are supposed to “actively and unreservedly support”.

One would have thought, given how much power is being transferred to the unaccountable, transnational, realm of European institutions that some powers might be devolved back down to national parliaments. After all, wasn’t that the point of “subsidiarity”, something we thought we agreed back in 1991?

But the constitution doesn’t return a single power to legislate back to national parliaments. The direction of EU political development is all one way — away from the people.

The constitution does give national parliaments the chance to register their concern about EU legislation. But they can do no more than lodge an empty complaint. If one third of all EU parliaments object, within a fixed six-month period, to a single law then the EU promises to take note of their concerns. Then, having taken note, those manning the EU institutions can press ahead regardless.

Mr Blair may consider this treaty a victory for the British way of doing things, but it is, in truth, melancholy confirmation of his tendency to be swept along with the integrationist flow while protesting that he has somehow turned the tide. Perhaps when Blair’s people talked about this deal recalling Waterloo they really were telling the truth. Because Mr Blair’s negotiating style in Europe is pure Abba. Faced with any treaty he joins the chorus: “How could I ever refuse? / I feel like I win when I lose . . .”


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: eu; europeanunion; leviathan; superstate
I'm glad I voted UKIP. UKIP's Robert Kilroy-Silk was bold enough to compare Blair to Chamberlain, and he was right.

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 06/21/2004 3:04:05 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: lainde; Denver Ditdat; Judith Anne; Desdemona; alnick; knews_hound; faithincowboys; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 06/21/2004 3:04:28 PM PDT by MadIvan (Ronald Reagan - proof positive that one man can indeed change the world.)
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To: MadIvan
I'm glad I voted UKIP. UKIP's Robert Kilroy-Silk was bold enough to compare Blair to Chamberlain, and he was right.

So who would be Lord Ha Ha?

3 posted on 06/21/2004 3:10:32 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: MadIvan

It is hard to be a "Superstate" when 1) you rely on another country for your security. 2) your economy is in shambles because of an ever expanding welfare state.3) your population has stopped growing and your continent is about to be over run by Arabs.

Spare us the talk of the European Superstate. Until someone comes along that has the guts to deal with the problems that have lead to the collapse of Europe it will continue to be an amoral mess with leaders unable or unwilling to see the collapse of their states that is going on right in front of them.


4 posted on 06/21/2004 3:11:47 PM PDT by Patrick1
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To: Paleo Conservative
So who would be Lord Ha Ha?

Oh Lord Haw Haw is Charles Kennedy, leader of the Liberal Democrats - who wants to sign up to every bloody thing Brussels comes up with.

Regards, Ivan

5 posted on 06/21/2004 3:12:34 PM PDT by MadIvan (Ronald Reagan - proof positive that one man can indeed change the world.)
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To: MadIvan

What a sad article. I can only pray that patriotic Brits find a way to stop the bleeding of their national sovereignty and identity. Tony Blair's been a great friend of America these last three tough years and we deeply appreciate him and other Brits who have stood beside us, but I can't for the life of me imagine a voluntary ceding of one's rights of self-government to a foreign body whose interests many times will run counter to your own.

Good luck in stopping this train before it gets too far down the track.


6 posted on 06/21/2004 3:19:11 PM PDT by Neville72
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To: MadIvan
If there is a referendum on this POS and the British people ratify it, they will have lost their worth as an ally to the US, because they will no longer be able to act without the predictably reluctant assent of the rest of Europe.

Further, their ABILITY to act as an ally will have also become seriously suspect because the Eurocrats will take the Britis economy down hard and fast.

7 posted on 06/21/2004 3:31:08 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: MadIvan

Another attempt at Soviet, ooops, European Union? Haven't they learned? Watch them to socialize themeselves to oblivion.


8 posted on 06/21/2004 3:33:20 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian
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To: MadIvan
Tony Blair was a latter-day Wellington, once again beating off the French

The French do a pretty good job of beating themselves off; other than that, they're worthless.

9 posted on 06/21/2004 3:35:16 PM PDT by Migraine
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To: MadIvan

It's going to be interesting - if I live long enough - to see what series of events causes the breakup of the EU. The best thing I think we could do to hasten it would be to withdraw all troops from Europe, withdraw from NATO, and announce a policy of non-intervention in European affairs. The Germans would then rearm, and things would get very, very, VERY interesting over there...

These alliances of historically and culturally "Diverse" Peoples are unstable in the best of times. The Eurofags can dream socialistic dreams all they want - we've seen what happens when reality bites, and since they can't even put out a brushfire war in their own smelly back yard, apparently they didn't learn their lesson last time. So...


10 posted on 06/21/2004 3:37:55 PM PDT by fire_eye (Socialism is the opiate of academia.)
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To: MadIvan

A disaster in the making, at best-- at worst, another "Evil Empire". How can they reach parity with the US by combining 10% unemployment rates, paltry GNPs, hight tax rates and socialist ideals? If this works out like the UN, they'll be looting the cafeterias within a year!


11 posted on 06/21/2004 3:55:17 PM PDT by fat city (Julius Rosenberg's soviet code name was "Liberal")
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To: MadIvan

So, Ivan, are the eurocrats creating a communist state, a fascist state, or the best of both?

And isn't an unelected, unaccountable bureaucracy dictating law called a dictatorship?


12 posted on 06/21/2004 4:06:58 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Gen. Custer wore an Arrowsmith shirt to his last property owner convention.)
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To: MadIvan

It will be interesting to see what happens when the first country announces that they will leave the EU. I predict the EU will say, “You can’t leave without our permission”.


13 posted on 06/21/2004 5:25:18 PM PDT by usurper
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To: MadIvan
One of the most worrying areas where Britain loses its veto is immigration. If the constitution is ratified then Britain could be outvoted on asylum policy and its own legislation could be struck down by foreign judges.

Ivan, this is shocking. How is this received in Britain?

14 posted on 06/21/2004 6:40:39 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: Leo Carpathian

France Sucks.

I just wanted to say that...and it seemed now was the right time.


15 posted on 06/21/2004 6:41:39 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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To: MadIvan

I keep reading these articles and I feel like I'm in the twilight zone. WHY would Britain even consider giving up it's sovereignty to unsuccessful Eurocrats with a collective historical past littered with unhinged, despotic leaders, major wars and economic catastrophes. HOW did this even come to the table with any kind of legitimacy? Yes Blair has a certain amount of charisma, but really now...It defies common sense! It's like Britain has been stricken with temporary insanity. Kind of like our long national nightmare with the Clintons. Kind of like the possibility Kerry could be actually elected president!


16 posted on 06/21/2004 11:49:04 PM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: usurper
Exactly.

In the new so called "constitution" there is a right to secede, but only if a number of countries in the European Council + a number of members in the EU parliament agrees.

(I haven't got the numbers available, but I think it is a third of the countries, and a simple majority in the parliament.)

Doesn't that sound like the real groundwork for a conflict?

Hopefully the voters in Britain, Holland, Denmark and Eire will say no to this abomination.

ScaniaBoy
17 posted on 06/27/2004 2:21:27 PM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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