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To: nkycincinnatikid
Princip was an agent of the Serb Military,

I'm familiar with the story, and the Black Hand, etc. etc. They did not create or enforce the tangle of mutual defense treaties that was the real cause of WWI, nor did they ever represent the Serbian people as a whole.

To point at Serbia as determinant of world military and political policy is both simplistic and false.

Perhaps you and Oliver Stone believe Oswald was an agent of the US government, but nobody else does.

Your use of bogus strawmen serves only to discredit you. I hold no agreement with the ravings of Oliver Stone, nor with your puerile attempts to put me in a box with him.

If your opinions have merit, you need not resort to such pathetic and desperate measures to advance them.

14 posted on 06/22/2004 6:21:22 PM PDT by Imal (Not only are there many layers in an onion, but there are many onions.)
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To: Imal

TOO many onions in your post, my eyes are watering


16 posted on 06/22/2004 6:38:07 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: Imal; nkycincinnatikid
I'm familiar with the story, and the Black Hand, etc. etc. They did not create or enforce the tangle of mutual defense treaties that was the real cause of WWI, nor did they ever represent the Serbian people as a whole.

Sorry to upset you, kid. That's what I really meant to say. Every player in Europe wanted a piece of the Balkan action, and they got it in spades. With the defeat of the Turks in their war with Italy in 1911, and their defeat in the Balkans at the hands of the Serbs and Montenegrins, there was suddenly a lot of new and very rich real estate on the European market. It was just too tempting.

And, darn it, the Serbs really did accept almost all of Austria's demands. There really wasn't much of an excuse for the Austrians to invade. The Kaiser knew this. Had he kept the Germans out, which he seriously considered, the Russians would probably not have invaded Germany. Had the Serbs and Montenegrins not utterly routed the Austrians, it might also have gone differently.

IMHO, had the Germans stayed out, the Austrians would have eventually prevailed over the Serbs and Montenegrins, anyway. As poor countries, they could not have continued the war for long, despite their early success.

28 posted on 06/23/2004 5:57:47 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk
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