Posted on 06/22/2004 8:30:42 PM PDT by libertynews
Hence the random searches on Boston's subway...
Next the buses...?
From your reply, I don't believe you read and understood what was written in that except I posted from the 1923 (?) Harvard Law Review ...
However as there ferry boats travel a few miles between cities in Washington it has nothing to do with this case.Can you show us where this 'exemption' from Coast Guard enforcement of maritime regulations/law is laid out?
Right, kinda like aircraft tanks and the #6 they use to run the ferry.....I suppose they could have us drain them and push the cars on and off.....or we could swim.
sure, when the female muslim body cavity bomber goes to the lavatory - you and all the other gun totting passengers can decide if she has been in there too long, and blow her away through the lavatory door before she blows up the plane.
Do you also get your shorts in a knot that you have your bags and shoes searched at SEA-TAC Airport?
Federal maritime and aviation regulatory authority trumps State Constitutions.
If you don't like it, don't fly out of SEA-TAC and drive around Tacoma to get to Bremerton or Bainbridge instead of taking the ferry.
A terrorist van packed with explosives detonating on the Bainbridge-Seattlle run would be quite an easy terror operation once we have rules that say that vehicles can't be searched and that Arabs can't be profiled.
Apparently, more than some FReepers have.
Here! Here!
Which of those gives them the right to search ferries?
BTW: I agree it is a common sense thing to do, just that it's another poorly arrived at decision.
14USC89 gave the USCG broad authority to conduct inspections.
Been that way well before Lewis & Clark first set foot upon that wilderness which later becomes Washington state.
There is nothing wrong with searching cars during time of war. What's your beef?
sure, when the female muslim body cavity bomber goes to the lavatory - you and all the other gun totting passengers can decide if she has been in there too long, and blow her away through the lavatory door before she blows up the plane.
I just got back to Whidbey Island after taking my son to Seatac airport this morning. I caught the 6:30 a.m. Clinton ferry -no visible security but the 3:00 p.m. Mulkiteo terminal was backed up quite a ways - only one toll booth open and many patrol cars around, and big signs which says they might seach your car.
An old unconstitutional law is still unconstititutional. You did not answer the question.
Major Statutory Authorities
Source: www.uscg.mil G-OPL
14 USC 2 - Law Enforcement is primary duty of Coast Guard
14 USC 89 - Coast Guard general boarding, search, and arrest authority
14 USC 141 - Coast Guard cooperation with Federal/State agencies
14 USC 143/19 USC 1401(i) - Certain Coast Guard personnel also deemed "Officers of the Customs".
19 USC 1581 - Customs general boarding authority
19 USC 482 - Customs general border search authority.
(See 33 CFR sub part 2.05 for definitions of maritime jurisdictional terms.)
Title 33 -- Navigation and Navigable Waters
CHAPTER I -- COAST GUARD, DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY
I have sited the part of the Constitution that clearly ENUMERATES the POWERS vested in the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. The 9th and 10th Ammendments make it clear that powers not ENUMERATED are reserved for the STATES and the PEOPLE. NOT just sitting there waiting for FEDGOV to claim them in poorly thought out laws.
Thanks!
First, looking for a car bomb to stop a terrorist from blowing up a Puget Sound ferry as it is landing in downtown Seattle or as a San Juan Island ferry is running into the side of one of the major bulk oil tankers that dock up near Cherry Point, is fine in my book. I have no problem with that. Use all the bomb sniffing dogs you want.
Now as a hunter in Washington State who will on ocassion follow all state law in the transportation of firearms in my vehicle and who lives on one side of Puget Sound and occasionally hunts on the other side of Puget Sound; I object to searches that will prevent lawful citizens from lawfully transporting firearms on board a "common carrier" for a legal purpose.
Even airlines allow one to check a legal firearm as baggage so that one can go hunting at a destination. The concept of a "common carrier" is such that even with the intense screening at airports, one can still legally transport firearms, when one is going hunting in Montana or Alaska. I am not sure that ferrys will be able to handle the checking of firearms, if needed.
Most of the articles I have seen are silent on the transportation of firearms and will this be restricted. This year I purchased deer tags and gave the State of Washington extra money so that I could apply for a special hunt permit on the "other side of Puget Sound." If I get that special hunt permit and am forced to drive around, I am going to be very unhappy. There are others I know who hunt on "islands" that are only served by ferries, so I don't know what they will do if firearms are prohibited. The devil will be in the details.
Our government now views the Bill of Rights as little more than toilet paper.
Well, they failed miserably on 9/11, and according to a recently article, "security" is no better now than prior to 9/11.
The problem is that too many Americans define security as being proportional to how many of their Rights the gov't violates, and how often they are violated.
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