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Why Jews Welcome Muslims
FrontPage Magazine ^ | June 22, 2004 | Lawrence Auster

Posted on 06/22/2004 8:57:17 PM PDT by rmlew

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While I am sure that certain anti-Semites will try to make hay out of this inflammatory subject, that was not the intention of the piece. Rather, it is a shot across the bow of the Liberal and Neoconservative Jewish establishments.
1 posted on 06/22/2004 8:57:18 PM PDT by rmlew
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Jews and immigration
Kevin Macdonald ^ | Kevin MacDonald
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1157025/posts


3 posted on 06/22/2004 9:02:44 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: rmlew

The one problem with the theory is that as long as the 2nd Amendment exists, Muslims will not be able to 'doom' Jews here. One Jew with a gun in his hand is greater than 240 Muslims, armed or not. And given that there are about six million Jews in the US, there would need to be nearly a billion and a half Muslims here to give them a 50/50 chance at it.


4 posted on 06/22/2004 9:05:24 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Islam delenda est)
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To: rmlew

The point Lawrence Auster makes can't be made strongly enough.

In fact, I would go a little further and say that for some secular Jews, the Holocaust has become essentially a substitute religion. Instead of adhering to the Torah and the Covenant, many secular and semi-secular Jews have constructed a kind of secular religion out of the Holocaust.

The Exodus from Egypt shows that an all-good and all-powerful God protects His people with his strong right arm. The extinction of the Jews in Auschwitz shows that God doesn't really exist. That is exactly what Elie Weisel argues with a certain gloomy satisfaction in "Night."

The Holocaust certainly cannot be ignored or forgotten, but there is a real danger that it twists people's religion and their political thinking. Hitler is dead. Now there are other dangers that must be confronted.


5 posted on 06/22/2004 9:10:37 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: vishnu6

And there will be a strong Jewish vote for Kerry. Go figure.....


6 posted on 06/22/2004 9:15:49 PM PDT by ChEng
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To: thoughtomator

While your point about the superiority of Jewish soldiers to Mohammedans is quite true, you are forgetting that the vast majority of American Jews are for abolishing the second amendment. JFPO is a brave group, but small. If leftists are able to end the RKBA, Muslims will go after Jews big time once they acheive sufficient numbers here.


7 posted on 06/22/2004 9:37:52 PM PDT by Bogolyubski
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But if Jews and others continue in their embrace of open borders, in thirty years time the Jews will find themselves a besieged and powerless minority in an Islamic-dominated, anti-Semitic America.

In France it was Le Pen who wanted to stop Muslim flood.

8 posted on 06/22/2004 9:39:50 PM PDT by A. Pole ("When they start beheading your own people[...], then you will know what this is all about." - Slobo)
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To: thoughtomator; vishnu6; rmlew; Cicero; A. Pole

but what invite that problem period? from what I have seen in the modern era, groups like the Cubans who embrace conservative values like appreciation of RKBA are the exception not the rule.

no offense but Jewish group behavior to me often appears collectively self destructive.

as a Goy, I'm not along for the ride....wish they'd listen and quit so frequently thinking of themselves separately and exclusively....thay are always welcome with my tribe should they decide to share my views on prevailing against the moon rock evil that is after us both.

frustrating.


9 posted on 06/22/2004 10:00:10 PM PDT by wardaddy (It maytake at least 1,000,000 deaths on US soil to bring America to a true war footing....sadly.)
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To: rmlew

The politically correct immigration policies implemented by the Johnson administration need to be halted.


10 posted on 06/22/2004 10:08:38 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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To: rmlew

America no longer has need of Mohomodens in any way, shape or form.

It is not a religion, it is a terrorist cult.

These jihadists are recruited into being Mohomdens right in our NEIGHBORHOODS and then are trained to hate and murder, if not provide comfort, shelter, monies, etc.

What galls me is that, beyond any shadow of ANY doubt in my mind, I'm convinced that the Mohomoden community started this war, the perps and future perps rely on the rest of the Mohomodens for their livelihood, and they can also end it by turning over EVERY would be/terrorist and sympathizer/supporter TONIGHT yet.

Of course, this won't happen because their 'holy book' (laugh) is where they get this stuff from, with 'canons' added by the minute by 'clerics'.

Take the 'Al-Mahdi' 'militia' of murderers in Iraq. Study 'Al-Mahdi' and you'll see what we are up against and why eradication of large numbers could very well be INEVITABLE.


11 posted on 06/22/2004 10:08:51 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (I DO NOT BRAKE FOR MOHOMOCOWARDENS)
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To: vishnu6
1. Every wants a safe harbor for themselves and freedom in other countries.
2. Jews have lived in diaspora for much of the last 2500 years.
3. Jewish refugees being turned away from port after port and then sent to their deaths under Nazi rule has burned an indelible mark among Jews.

I am for a Buchananite immigration policy as long as refugees are treated differently than immigrants.
12 posted on 06/22/2004 10:56:54 PM PDT by rmlew (Peaceniks and isolationists are objectively pro-Terrorist)
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
Not that anti-Semite.
MacDonald seems to call everything, including Judaism and Christianity, a survival strategy of Jews.
He is a crank, who ignores information he doesn't like on Jews, including Jewish diversity. Just as the Nazis had Social Darwinists, Neo-nazis have a sociobiologist like MacDonald.
13 posted on 06/22/2004 10:58:43 PM PDT by rmlew (Peaceniks and isolationists are objectively pro-Terrorist)
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1. There are 5.3 million Jews in America. The number is dwindling.
2. Jews tend to live in areas with gun control, not that Muslim terrorists care. Muslims have murdered a number of Jews in America, including shooting up a van full of students.
As for me, I'd love a 9mm or .45 acp.
14 posted on 06/22/2004 11:01:35 PM PDT by rmlew (Peaceniks and isolationists are objectively pro-Terrorist)
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To: Cicero
Don't look at me. I am a son and grandson of survivors. The real problem is American Jews who are racked with guilt from the inaction of their grandparents.
15 posted on 06/22/2004 11:02:51 PM PDT by rmlew (Peaceniks and isolationists are objectively pro-Terrorist)
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To: wardaddy
Our (American Jews asa whole) have some destructive pathologies. Strategies that were once effective, or have falsely been remembered as such, have become anachronistic impediments if not suicidal tendancies.
Anti-nationalism, liberalism as a religion, and desire for a protective government are probably the worst of these.
16 posted on 06/22/2004 11:05:14 PM PDT by rmlew (Peaceniks and isolationists are objectively pro-Terrorist)
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oh well...none of us are perfect.

my tribe were once dixiecrats, now we are arguably the most dependable republicans....there is hope for everyone to come around given the right stimuli.

given our common foe, i personally consider nationalism to be a priority for us as well as Israel.

speaking now of ALL liberals, I must confess I am amazed and saddened at how quickly many here have gone to sleep over the danger we face....it's like they have forgotten 9-11. I fear we will have to suffer much much more before we are ALL galvanized.


17 posted on 06/22/2004 11:09:52 PM PDT by wardaddy (It maytake at least 1,000,000 deaths on US soil to bring America to a true war footing....sadly.)
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"wish they'd listen and quit so frequently thinking of themselves separately"

I've noticed this too. The article has only Jews wringing their hands at the influx of Islam into the U.S. The fact is, all Americans should be concerned about Islamic immigration.

This generation of Islam is a bold one, because Christian faith is weakened by liberalism now and there is noone at the watchtower with eyes keen enough to warn us of the evils and dangers of Islam. With the exception of terrorism the menace of Islam goes largely undetected. Way too many people are convinced that there is only a small fraction of Islam that is a danger to us and that Islam is "one of the great religions of the world".

Subsequently, the Mohammedans find it easy to come here, and they meet no opposition in infecting our society with their maniacal beliefs.

18 posted on 06/22/2004 11:10:34 PM PDT by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" Pope Urban II)
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To: A. Pole

France may be the first European nation that is conquered by Islam in the modern era, just from population growth of immigrants.


19 posted on 06/23/2004 1:39:54 AM PDT by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: rmlew

Before anyone starts to accuse this author of anti-Semitism, I would like to point out that the author is of Jewish origin himself, and - like most of us here - is fiercely in Israel's corner in its struggle against the murderous Jihadis.

Mr. Auster is really talking about the suicidal nihilism that is at the root of all liberalism, and the necessity of our complete repentence from it if we, whether we are Jewish or Christian, are to survive. Many American Jews have been infected with this disease of liberalism and substitute it for the real Jewish tradition and faith. The same is true for millions of nominal Christians in the US. Israel itself has liberals within its Jewish population who desire to see the place inundated by Mohammedans. That's one of the reasons I've taken to referring to liberals (including the faux conservatives at places like the Wall Street Journal) as Kool-Aid drinkers. Like the hapless followers of the Rev. Jim Jones in Jonestown, Guyana, they drink the poison without question or objection.


20 posted on 06/23/2004 2:00:00 AM PDT by Bogolyubski
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