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Tape Shows Marine Hostage in Iraq(God help him)
FOX NEWS ^ | Sunday, June 27, 2004 | staff

Posted on 06/27/2004 2:16:30 PM PDT by dinok

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To: Poohbah
I might have rephrased that and explained myself better - forgive me.

"Intelligence gathering" is understood to be "outsourced" as you put it, but this is not my real concern here.

My concern is foreign nationals on the payroll who do much more than simple intelligence gathering. Situations where we are forced to have foreigners having direct access to sensitive information.

You will find very few American citizens working as translators - it is not because we dont have citizens to do the work, we have but our government prefers to hire those outside the US.

You might find it surprising that we are recruiting translators in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan now among other countries and offering these people a fast track to citizenship.

61 posted on 06/27/2004 3:16:28 PM PDT by expatguy (Fallujah Delenda Est!!)
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To: OldFriend

Mustaches are being sometimes allowed because we want to be PC and the mustache is supposedly a sign of adulthood or some crap in arab culture.


62 posted on 06/27/2004 3:16:36 PM PDT by TomasUSMC
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To: TomasUSMC
That ID doesn't look like the one I have. Ive been out since 98 but it doesn't look right. Anyone help with this?

I am not sure what ID card you have, but in the last year they are issuing a new electronic/Smart CAC (common access card) for military.

I can't find a picture of the card they are showing so I can't confirm if that is the type this supposed marine has.
63 posted on 06/27/2004 3:17:18 PM PDT by pop-aye (For every journey, there is a higher path.)
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To: Chieftain

Sorry to hear that.


64 posted on 06/27/2004 3:19:38 PM PDT by OldFriend (IF YOU CAN READ THIS, THANK A TEACHER.......AND SINCE IT'S IN ENGLISH, THANK A SOLDIER)
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To: Slip18
I don't think "beheading" is the correct word there. I think the words are "sawing off their heads."

Yes. Beheading is not an accurate description. I'm betting that most of the liberal left have not watched the actual act, and think that this is some type of guillotine thing.

It's not.

65 posted on 06/27/2004 3:20:14 PM PDT by Recovering Hermit
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To: dinok

When do we take out the television stations that show these tapes? When does some begin to back track on whoever and however these tapes are delivered and locate the source.

Until we throw away the books on the rules of engagement and do whatever it takes to kill these vermin, our side is at an unacceptable disadvantage.

Let's either do it right or else just give up-pucker up and practice kissing the enemy on whichever cheek they turn.


66 posted on 06/27/2004 3:20:44 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Kerry is a real uniter-remember how he united the VC and our loonie left, against the USA?)
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To: Chieftain

Fox described it..but did not publish it...Perhaps Al Jeezera will have it on the web soon....they love this , but love it more if there's gore for the pleasure of their viewers...The have 3 Turkish hostages ,too...those I have seen...I have said my prayers, in between , I vent.


67 posted on 06/27/2004 3:20:55 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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To: TomasUSMC
Mustaches are being sometimes allowed because we want to be PC and the mustache is supposedly a sign of adulthood or some crap in arab culture.



Islam recommends men to wear facial hair because it distinguishes them from women. I know it sounds weird but that's what they believe.
68 posted on 06/27/2004 3:24:54 PM PDT by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: TomasUSMC
That ID doesn't look like the one I have. Ive been out since 98 but it doesn't look right. Anyone help with this?

I've been out since '64, can't help you on that.

69 posted on 06/27/2004 3:25:08 PM PDT by JimRed (Fight election fraud! Volunteer as a local poll watcher, challenger or district official.)
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To: expatguy
You will find very few American citizens working as translators - it is not because we dont have citizens to do the work, we have but our government prefers to hire those outside the US.

Bzzt.

America is the most determinedly monolingual culture in the world--the vast majority of Americans refuse to learn any language besides English (and many refuse to learn anything beyond the bare minimum necessary to graduate high school).

Most of the folks who speak Arabic and who are American citizens are leftist-whackjob college professors who teach Arabic. One problem we're having in getting translators is that universities are refusing to cooperate with the Department of Defense--several schools have flatly refused to allow active-duty military personnel to enroll in classes in Arabic, Pashto, Urdu, or Dari. The leftists have decided that the War on Terror is an opportunity to reprise the glory days of protesting Vietnam.

You might find it surprising that we are recruiting translators in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan now among other countries and offering these people a fast track to citizenship.

Utterly unsurprising, given that a Saudi is more likely to speak English well enough to be a translator than an American is likely to speak Arabic well enough to be a translator.

70 posted on 06/27/2004 3:25:31 PM PDT by Poohbah ("Mister Gorbachev, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!" -- President Ronald Reagan, Berlin, 1987)
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To: Esther Ruth

13 Rue Madelaine. Loosely (very, very loosely) based on a true story, or rather several true stories mixed together to create a fictional tale.


71 posted on 06/27/2004 3:29:30 PM PDT by kms61
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To: Poohbah

"universities are refusing to cooperate with the Department of Defense--several schools have flatly refused to allow active-duty military personnel to enroll in classes in Arabic, Pashto, Urdu, or Dari. "

Then federal funds should be cut or totally eliminated.


72 posted on 06/27/2004 3:31:21 PM PDT by Humal
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To: dinok
From Al Jazeera.net.....



73 posted on 06/27/2004 3:32:15 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: wimpycat

I noticed in one picture they didn't even have his hands secured. He certainly has a lot of hair for a Marine as well.


74 posted on 06/27/2004 3:32:44 PM PDT by Ajnin
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To: Mears
"A lot of Americans hated Truman for using the atom bomb on Japan but there was none of the hate and vitriol that is being thrown at Bush.(Yes,I was around then)."

I wasn't around then, but I know you are spot on. What we see today in the division between the right and left isn't political anymore, it's spiritual and moral warfare. In essense there is a bloodless civil war going on in America, created and fueled by leftists, atheists, socialists, communists, feminists and homosexuals. The Islamofacist terrorists see and understand this division quite well, and they are playing it like a trump card. I pray it will blow up in their faces, somehow.

75 posted on 06/27/2004 3:34:13 PM PDT by TheCrusader ("the frenzy of the Mohammedans has devastated the churches of God" Pope Urban II)
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76 posted on 06/27/2004 3:34:44 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: pop-aye

My thoughts exactly. Give the people that want to get out of Fallujah a chance to leave and those that don't want to leave will just have to suffer the consequences.


77 posted on 06/27/2004 3:34:50 PM PDT by WatchOutForSnakes
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To: dinok
When I first heard this news, I thought...You have 24 hours to vacate Mecca, I have since come to my senses. I pray he suffers little.
78 posted on 06/27/2004 3:35:18 PM PDT by ditto h
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To: hole_n_one

??


79 posted on 06/27/2004 3:38:40 PM PDT by cgk (3000+ 9/11. Pearl, Fallujah, Berg, Jacobs, Scroggs, Johnson, Sun-il... Never forget. Never Again!)
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To: dinok
This situation is getting ridiculous, I think we should concede, and propose:

Dear Any Hostage taking Terrorist,

We concede you can, at the drop of a hat, take a hostage wherever, whenever and whoever you want. We the US Hostage Negotiation Team would like to put forth the following proposal.

Upon Confirmation of the taking of ANY nations personnel hostage, the US has been given Carte Blanche to choose, wherever and whenever for the nuclear destruction of ANY Middle Eastern City of our choosing within 24 hours. In those 24 hours all military personnel and civilians both domestic and foreign are given that time to evacuate the city. However, we will not announce the city to be “executed” (if you will) till the 23rd hour. We have decided to start drilling in ANWR, and no longer need to be held hostage for oil. To modify an old saying “Let the nuclear bombs fall where they may. We need the parking.”

To all targeted cities, we would appreciate any help in recovering the hostage(S) ALIVE. using any means necessary. Only after the hostage(s) have been released to their respective country and medically examined to be healthy, will the responsible country for their release receive one free “get out of destructive bombing free” card. This will be the ONLY way to receive this card. And it can only be used once. If there is additional help in capturing sought after terrorists, upon the handing over of said terrorists the situation will be dealt with on a case by case basis.

We the US Hostage Negotiation Team would like to thank you for your time. And causing us to have a much clearer picture of the situation.

Have A Nice day! :o)


IMHO
80 posted on 06/27/2004 3:39:22 PM PDT by skyhntr (You've never been lost until you've been lost at Mach 3. (Paul F. Crickmore- test pilot).)
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