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New Iraqi prime minister seen as puppet, outsider
Associated Press ^ | June 29, 2004 | Associated Press Staff

Posted on 06/29/2004 11:53:46 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP

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To: MeekOneGOP

Sounds like they took lessons from the Washington Post:

http://www.commentarypage.com/johnson/johnson062904.php


21 posted on 06/29/2004 12:16:40 PM PDT by PogySailor (Proud member of the RAM)
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To: MeekOneGOP

My god, the media would be kissing the hem of Uncle Joe Stalin's robes if that's what it took to get rid of President Bush. They will do their best to make Uncle Saddam into a martyr and Allawi into a stooge these next few months.

Liberals all want to be dictators anyway and admire ruthlessness if it destroys their detractors. Each one thinks he/she is the enlightened Nietzschean Superman, to whom ordinary morals do not apply.


22 posted on 06/29/2004 12:17:45 PM PDT by Puddleglum (Kerry loathes you but will tolerate your vote, peon!)
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To: MeekOneGOP
Wow. It took the AP a whole 24 hours to start pumping out the Dick Gephardt "Miserable Failure" line of reporting.

What a bunch of traitorous, anti-American tripe eaters.

23 posted on 06/29/2004 12:18:40 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm so glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: johnfrink
It's quite telling that they offer no contrary evidence. What--they couldn't find two Iraqis on the street to say something positive? If this had been an article talking about how Iraqis like Allawi, they would have felt the need to "balance" that with some negative comments.

Well, according to the latest AP/CBS/New York Times/CNN/ABC/NBC/MSNBC/Newsweek/NPR poll, 93% of all Iraqis harken back to the days of rape rooms, mass graves, disappearing relatives fed into shredders, and living in poverty while France, Russia, Germany, and the U.N. soaked up their oil-for-terror-and-WMD blood money...the other 7% are seen as CIA-backed outsiders.

24 posted on 06/29/2004 12:20:49 PM PDT by HenryLeeII (God blessed America when He gave us Ronald Reagan!)
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To: MeekOneGOP
Headlines you'll never see:

"To many Americans, Michael Moore is a fat, lying slob"

"To many Americans, John Kerry is a flip-flopping, horse-faced bore"
25 posted on 06/29/2004 12:22:17 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: MeekOneGOP

I don't know the leaning of this publication, but the headline is sure misleading when you see that the first sentence explains that it is the Islamlfascists that hold this view.


26 posted on 06/29/2004 12:23:04 PM PDT by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: MeekOneGOP; joanie-f; snopercod; JeanS; Alamo-Girl
PS

The networks get all there numbers that you see on the TV, from the AP.

My comments are based upon what I discovered from looking into the matter, the night after the 1996 elections.

As I said before, there may be more accuracy, but I doubt it.

My point is, that the people, in general, think that the numbers shown on the TV are the actual count; they are unaware of the estimates included.

An estimate at a precinct, might go something like this:

An AP agent counts all the people who come out of the door. The ask questions of the people leaving, and then make an estimate of the whole, based upon the sampling of the few who were willing to talk about their choices.

Those estimates are reported to the AP center that in turn, the TV networks monitor for the numbers that they will choose to report on the TV screen.

The network numbers differ, because of the fluid situation and because the networks also "balance" the estimates with their own.

This gets to be a problem for close races and can mislead people.

My own two cents is, that no reporting should be permitted for 24 hours, that is, until the evening after election day.

27 posted on 06/29/2004 12:23:11 PM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Puddleglum
Each [liberal] thinks he/she is the enlightened Nietzschean Superman, to whom ordinary morals do not apply.

EXACTLY!!!!! Buncha' Leopold and Loeb's

28 posted on 06/29/2004 12:24:06 PM PDT by bannie (Liberal Media: The Most Dangerous Enemies to America and Freedom)
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To: nuffsenuff
"Despite [(1) good news in Iraq or (2) a /pro-Bush development anywhere/anytime] many/some say [followed by negative spin] . . . "

This is the standard boilerplate the press uses to minimize any good news pertaining to the war in Iraq or to Bush in general. The good news is always followed by selective negative comments which diminish or totally negate the impact of the good news.
29 posted on 06/29/2004 12:27:51 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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The media is rapidly becoming a parody of itself. I actually thought this was satire when I first started reading the article.


30 posted on 06/29/2004 12:28:09 PM PDT by saquin
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To: vbmoneyspender
Has the AP been engaged by Zarqawi to put out press releases .....

It sure sounds like it in this article doesn't it?


31 posted on 06/29/2004 12:30:45 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Call me the Will Rogers voter: I never met a Democrat I didn't like - to vote OUT OF POWER !)
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To: MeekOneGOP

AP, agents of evil.


32 posted on 06/29/2004 12:33:20 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: MeekOneGOP
Such sentiments are not uncommon in a nation where many blame the Americans...

Carefully crafted BS: "many" is far different from "most". "Many" think that Elvis is alive. "Many" think that Bill Clinton was a great president. There are altogether too "many" mentally challenged people out there.

33 posted on 06/29/2004 12:40:05 PM PDT by Nevermore
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To: MeekOneGOP
like these puppets?


34 posted on 06/29/2004 12:53:19 PM PDT by petercooper (In the end, the Democrats are really just a herd of jackasses.)
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To: First_Salute
Thanks for clarifying that process by AP. It makes more sense to me now.

My 2 cents on the matter is that on local elections, NO reports on the elections should be released until ALL the local polling places are CLOSED. On state elections, NO reports on the elections should be released until ALL the state polling places are CLOSED. And on National elections, NO reports on the elections should be released until ALL National polling places are CLOSED. Any media violating that should face jail time !

It is just PURE BS for the media to affect voter turnout or lack of turnout. And until something is done to stop it, it will continue. It's bad enough we have to fight the 'RATS voter fraud (dead voters, etc.).

< /rant >


35 posted on 06/29/2004 12:54:29 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Call me the Will Rogers voter: I never met a Democrat I didn't like - to vote OUT OF POWER !)
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To: MeekOneGOP

How do I send a correction or letter to the editor?

Send an email to info@ap.org and it will be forwarded to the reporter or editor.


36 posted on 06/29/2004 12:54:57 PM PDT by Califelephant
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To: petercooper
LOL !

37 posted on 06/29/2004 12:55:01 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Call me the Will Rogers voter: I never met a Democrat I didn't like - to vote OUT OF POWER !)
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To: MeekOneGOP
! !

38 posted on 06/29/2004 1:01:34 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: First_Salute
Ahhh....the infamous "Voter News Service".
The result of the 2000 Presidential Election was called, recalled, called again and recounted. On November 7, 2001, NBC, CBS, CNN, Fox News, ABC and the Associated Press had all called Florida for Gore and all before 8 p.m. EST. The polls in the panhandle were still open when the presidential race was projected.

The Voter News Service ("VNS") was established in 1994 by ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN and the Associated Press with Fox News service becoming a member in 1997. In providing an election projection, VNS collects survey responses, or exit polls, actual vote tallies as well as the vote count from precincts and counties. Based upon this information, VNS provides data and analysis to all of the members equally. In 2000, VNS projected that Gore would take Florida at 7:52 p.m. This projection was recalled at 9:40 p.m., which resulted in media recalls and later erroneous projections.

Following the 2000 Presidential Election, many of the nation's major broadcast media outlets adopted a policy of not reporting or projecting which candidate has carried a state until all the polls are closed in that state. It should be noted that these major media corporations have made and adopted similar policies in the past that have not been adhered to. In 1985, many major networks reached an agreement with Congress to not announce results until a state's polls were closed. There are, of course, many other media outlets from which voters may still hear projections regarding ongoing contests, and it is unclear whether local network affiliates will refrain from projecting winners in Florida's statewide election contests until the polls in the panhandle close.

Because content based prior restraints on political speech are virtually prohibited by the First Amendment, government cannot effectively impede the conduct of exit polls by VNS. States' attempts to bar or discourage exit polling have been consistently rejected.

[link for above quote]. IIRC, the VNS is now defunct, so maybe they all rely on the AP exit polls these days.

But they ARE exit polls, not counted votes.

39 posted on 06/29/2004 1:47:23 PM PDT by snopercod ("Stay quiet and you’ll be OK." -- Muhammad Atta)
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To: MeekOneGOP

Always a critic! Can't stand success.


40 posted on 06/29/2004 1:50:42 PM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak)
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